From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
kernel-team@meta.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 02/14] mm/sparse: Check memmap alignment
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 15:18:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b758468-9985-49b8-948a-e5837decf52d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ctnfkw5zqneume6px2wqgdgusfdricr4uuonv7bfjheknrt2g@fdb5ceiiar4q>
On 12/22/25 15:02, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 04:34:40PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2025/12/18 23:09, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>> The upcoming changes in compound_head() require memmap to be naturally
>>> aligned to the maximum folio size.
>>>
>>> Add a warning if it is not.
>>>
>>> A warning is sufficient as MAX_FOLIO_ORDER is very rarely used, so the
>>> kernel is still likely to be functional if this strict check fails.
>>
>> Different architectures default to 2 MB alignment (mainly to
>> enable huge mappings), which only accommodates folios up to
>> 128 MB. Yet 1 GB huge pages are still fairly common, so
>> validating 16 GB (MAX_FOLIO_SIZE) alignment seems likely to
>> miss the most frequent case.
>
> I don't follow. 16 GB check is more strict that anything smaller.
> How can it miss the most frequent case?
>
>> I’m concerned that this might plant a hidden time bomb: it
>> could detonate at any moment in later code, silently triggering
>> memory corruption or similar failures. Therefore, I don’t
>> think a WARNING is a good choice.
>
> We can upgrade it BUG_ON(), but I want to understand your logic here
> first.
Definitely no BUG_ON(). I would assume this is something we would find
early during testing, so even a VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() should be good enough?
This smells like a possible problem, though, as soon as some
architecture wants to increase the folio size. What would be the
expected step to ensure the alignment is done properly?
But OTOH, as I raised Willy's work will make all of that here obsolete
either way, so maybe not worth worrying about that case too much,
--
Cheers
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-22 14:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-18 15:09 [PATCHv2 00/14] Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 01/14] mm: Move MAX_FOLIO_ORDER definition to mmzone.h Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 02/14] mm/sparse: Check memmap alignment Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 8:34 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 14:02 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 14:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-12-22 14:52 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 14:59 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 14:55 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-23 9:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-23 11:26 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-24 14:13 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 14:49 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 03/14] mm: Change the interface of prep_compound_tail() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 2:55 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 04/14] mm: Rename the 'compound_head' field in the 'struct page' to 'compound_info' Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 3:00 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 05/14] mm: Move set/clear_compound_head() next to compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 3:06 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 06/14] mm: Rework compound_head() for power-of-2 sizeof(struct page) Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 3:20 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 14:03 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-23 8:37 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 7:57 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 9:45 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 14:49 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 07/14] mm: Make page_zonenum() use head page Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 08/14] mm/hugetlb: Refactor code around vmemmap_walk Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 5:54 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 15:00 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 15:11 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 09/14] mm/hugetlb: Remove fake head pages Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 10/14] mm: Drop fake head checks Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 5:56 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 11/14] hugetlb: Remove VMEMMAP_SYNCHRONIZE_RCU Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 6:00 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 12/14] mm/hugetlb: Remove hugetlb_optimize_vmemmap_key static key Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 6:03 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 13/14] mm: Remove the branch from compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 6:30 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 14/14] hugetlb: Update vmemmap_dedup.rst Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 6:20 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 22:18 ` [PATCHv2 00/14] Eliminate fake head pages from vmemmap optimization Kiryl Shutsemau
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