Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] fix MADV_COLLAPSE issue if THP settings are disabled

[Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>]

On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 09:36:53AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 25.06.25 09:30, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > I _guarantee_ you that's what nearly everybody except a handful of people will
> > expect.
>
> I know, See my other mail, the problem is rather if there is no somebody
> relying on never+MADV_COLLAPSE from doing the MADV_COLLAPSE-documented
> thing.
>
> It's a mess.

Well now we have an almost philosophical debate - we have different sets of
users, 99% of whom believe the uAPI is X, and 1% of whom believe it is Y.

Now what is the uAPI? What is 'breaking userspace'? :)

Temptation to cc Linus here ;)

>
> (I have the suspicion that Hugh might know of such a user :) )

Speak up Hugh we're all friends here haha ;)

I mean if this really is a problem for real users then I'll concede the point.

Let me reply on other thread...

> > I really really dislike this. 'Deny' is weaker than 'never'. And now we have to
> > add even more complexity to the thing.
>
> See my other mail, for shmem_enabled "deny" is stronger than "never", lol.

OK so we're past the throwing up stage, can I cry now? :P