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From: Ge Yang <yangge1116@126.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	david@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v2 PATCH] mm: gup: do not call try_grab_folio() in slow path
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:09:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a2dee50-ca5d-423c-bbf0-5dae8fbb62e3@126.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zn35MMS_kq3p0m7q@x1n>



在 2024/6/28 7:43, Peter Xu 写道:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 04:32:42PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:19:40 -0400 Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yang,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 03:14:13PM -0700, Yang Shi wrote:
>>>> The try_grab_folio() is supposed to be used in fast path and it elevates
>>>> folio refcount by using add ref unless zero.  We are guaranteed to have
>>>> at least one stable reference in slow path, so the simple atomic add
>>>> could be used.  The performance difference should be trivial, but the
>>>> misuse may be confusing and misleading.
>>>
>>> This first paragraph is IMHO misleading itself..
>>>
>>> I think we should mention upfront the important bit, on the user impact.
>>>
>>> Here IMO the user impact should be: Linux may fail longterm pin in some
>>> releavnt paths when applied over CMA reserved blocks.  And if to extend a
>>> bit, that include not only slow-gup but also the new memfd pinning, because
>>> both of them used try_grab_folio() which used to be only for fast-gup.
>>
>> It's still unclear how users will be affected.  What do the *users*
>> see?  If it's a slight slowdown, do we need to backport this at all?
> 
> The user will see the pin fails, for gpu-slow it further triggers the WARN
> right below that failure (as in the original report):
> 
>          folio = try_grab_folio(page, page_increm - 1,
>                                  foll_flags);
>          if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!folio)) { <------------------------ here
>                  /*
>                          * Release the 1st page ref if the
>                          * folio is problematic, fail hard.
>                          */
>                  gup_put_folio(page_folio(page), 1,
>                                  foll_flags);
>                  ret = -EFAULT;
>                  goto out;
>          }
> 
> For memfd pin and hugepd paths, they should just observe GUP failure on
> those longterm pins, and it'll be the caller context to decide what user
> can see, I think.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> The patch itself looks mostly ok to me.
>>>
>>> There's still some "cleanup" part mangled together, e.g., the real meat
>>> should be avoiding the folio_is_longterm_pinnable() check in relevant
>>> paths.  The rest (e.g. switch slow-gup / memfd pin to use folio_ref_add()
>>> not try_get_folio(), and renames) could be good cleanups.
>>>
>>> So a smaller fix might be doable, but again I don't have a strong opinion
>>> here.
>>
>> The smaller the better for backporting, of course.
> 
> I think a smaller version might be yangge's patch, plus Yang's hugepd
> "fast" parameter for the hugepd stack, then hugepd can also use
> try_grab_page().  memfd-pin change can be a separate small patch perhaps
> squashed.

Thanks, new version:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/1719554518-11006-1-git-send-email-yangge1116@126.com/

> 
> I'll leave how to move on to Yang.
> 
> Thanks,
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-28  6:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-27 22:14 Yang Shi
2024-06-27 22:54 ` Andrew Morton
2024-06-27 23:02   ` Yang Shi
2024-06-27 23:19 ` Peter Xu
2024-06-27 23:32   ` Andrew Morton
2024-06-27 23:39     ` Yang Shi
2024-06-27 23:43     ` Peter Xu
2024-06-28  1:25       ` Ge Yang
2024-06-28  6:09       ` Ge Yang [this message]
2024-06-28  6:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-28 18:27   ` Yang Shi

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