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Does anyone have a quick idea? >>>>>> >>>>>> Only when running KVM guests and apart from that everything else seems to be fine? >>>>> >>>>> We have other weirdness in linux-next but in different areas. Could that somehow be >>>>> related to use disabling THP for the kvm address space? >>>> >>>> Not sure ... it's a bit weird. I mean, when KVM disables THPs we essentially just remap everything to be mapped by PTEs. So there shouldn't be any PMDs in that whole process. >>>> >>>> Remapping a file THP (shmem) implies zapping the THP completely. >>>> >>>> >>>> I assume in your kernel config has CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE and CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION set, right? >>> >>> yes. >>> >>>> >>>> I'd rule out copy_huge_pmd(), zap_huge_pmd() a well. >>>> >>>> >>>> What happens if you revert the change in mm/pgtable-generic.c? >>> >>> That partial revert seems to fix the issue >>> diff --git a/mm/pgtable-generic.c b/mm/pgtable-generic.c >>> index 0c847cdf4fd3..567e2d084071 100644 >>> --- a/mm/pgtable-generic.c >>> +++ b/mm/pgtable-generic.c >>> @@ -290,7 +290,7 @@ pte_t *___pte_offset_map(pmd_t *pmd, unsigned long addr, pmd_t *pmdvalp) >>>              if (pmdvalp) >>>                   *pmdvalp = pmdval; >>> -       if (unlikely(pmd_none(pmdval) || !pmd_present(pmdval))) >>> +       if (unlikely(pmd_none(pmdval) || is_pmd_migration_entry(pmdval))) >> >> Okay, but that means that effectively we stumble over a PMD entry that is not a migration entry but still non-present. >> >> And I would expect that it's a page table, because otherwise the change >> wouldn't make a difference. >> >> And the weird thing is that this only triggers sometimes, because if >> it would always trigger nothing would ever work. >> >> Is there some weird scenario where s390x might set a left page table mapped in a PMD to non-present? >> > > Good point > >> Staring at the definition of pmd_present() on s390x it's really just >> >>     return (pmd_val(pmd) & _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT) != 0; >> >> >> Maybe this is happening in the gmap code only and not actually in the core-mm code? >> > > > I am not an s390 expert, but just looking at the code > > So the check on s390 effectively > > segment_entry/present = false or segment_entry_empty/invalid = true pmd_present() == true iff _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT is set because return (pmd_val(pmd) & _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT) != 0; is the same as return pmd_val(pmd) & _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT; But that means we have something where _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT is not set. I suspect that can only be the gmap tables. Likely __gmap_link() does not set _SEGMENT_ENTRY_PRESENT, which is fine because it's a software managed bit for "ordinary" page tables, not gmap tables. Which raises the question why someone would wrongly use pte_offset_map()/__pte_offset_map() on the gmap tables. I cannot immediately spot any such usage in kvm/gmap code, though. -- Cheers David / dhildenb