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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 19/36] arm64/gcs: Allocate a new GCS for threads with GCS enabled
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 21:15:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a01ce20-3365-421b-95ff-211946808174@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNZhG/4rBpTenYVH@arm.com>

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On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 05:26:03PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 11:00:24PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:

> > +	mmap_write_lock(mm);
> > +	mapped_addr = do_mmap(NULL, addr, size, PROT_READ, flags,
> > +			      VM_SHADOW_STACK | VM_WRITE, 0, &unused, NULL);

> Why not PROT_WRITE as well? I guess I need to check the x86 patches
> since the do_mmap() called here has a different prototype than what's in
> mainline.

> This gets confusing since currently the VM_* flags are derived from the
> PROT_* flags passed to mmap(). But you skip the PROT_WRITE in favour of
> adding VM_WRITE directly.

I have to confess that I inherited this from the x86 code and never
thought too hard about it.  I've got a horrible feeling the reasoning is
simply the way in which x86 fits shadow stack into the page tables
without having a mechanism like permission indirection, these don't
apply for us.

> I haven't followed the x86 discussion but did we run out of PROT_* bits
> for a PROT_SHADOW_STACK?

It's more that there are security concerns with having PROT_, especially
in conjunction with needing to provide a token for stack pivot - we not
only need to map pages for the GCS, we also need to write a cap token
into it so that we can pivot to the new stack.  If the GCS can ever be
written to by userspace via normal means then that's an issue for the
basic protection model that the feature is trying to implement.  If we
have the PROT_ but try to check for bad uses of it that makes everything
messy and complicated which is especially non-ideal for a feature with a
security focus.  Having a more packaged system call is easier for
everyone.

More detail in the x86 patch that's currently in -next:

   https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230319001535.23210-34-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com/

> > +	/* Allocate RLIMIT_STACK with limits of PAGE_SIZE..4G */
> > +	size = PAGE_ALIGN(min_t(unsigned long long,
> > +				rlimit(RLIMIT_STACK), SZ_4G));
> > +	return max(PAGE_SIZE, size);
> > +}

> I saw Szabolcs commenting on the default size as well. Maybe we should
> go for RLIMIT_STACK/2 but let's see how the other sub-thread is going.

I've updated it.

> > +	if ((clone_flags & (CLONE_VFORK | CLONE_VM)) != CLONE_VM)
> > +		return 0;

> Is it safe for CLONE_VFORK not to get a new shadow stack? A syscall for
> exec could push something to the stack. I guess the GCS pointer in the
> parent stays the same, so it wouldn't matter.

Yes, pushing should be fine just as for the regular stack.

> That said, I think this check should be somewhere higher up in the
> caller of gcs_alloc_thread_stack(). The copy_thread_gcs() function
> already does most of the above checks. Is the GCS allocation called from
> elsewhere as well?

That's the only place.  I've moved the above check into copy_thread_gcs(),
you're right that the other checks are redundant as they're done in the
caller already.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-18 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 22:00 [PATCH v4 00/36] arm64/gcs: Provide support for GCS in userspace Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 01/36] prctl: arch-agnostic prctl for shadow stack Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 02/36] arm64: Document boot requirements for Guarded Control Stacks Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/36] arm64/gcs: Document the ABI " Mark Brown
2023-08-09 14:24   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-09 15:34     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-10  8:55       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-08-10 11:41         ` Mark Brown
2023-08-10 13:34           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-08-10 16:30             ` Mark Brown
2023-08-18 17:29       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-18 19:38         ` Mark Brown
2023-08-22 16:49           ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-22 17:53             ` Mark Brown
2023-08-23 10:09               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-08-23 12:51                 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-23 16:45                   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-23 17:18                     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-23 17:40                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-08-23 18:16                       ` Mark Brown
2023-08-24 15:43                         ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-24 17:38                           ` Mark Brown
2023-08-30 12:37                           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-08-30 16:42                             ` Mark Brown
2023-08-23 13:11                 ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-23 15:50                   ` Mark Brown
2023-09-28 16:59                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-02 19:49                     ` Mark Brown
2023-10-02 21:43                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-03 13:38                         ` Mark Brown
2023-10-03  8:45                       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-10-03 14:26                         ` Mark Brown
2023-10-05 17:23                           ` Catalin Marinas
2023-10-06 12:17                             ` Mark Brown
2023-10-06 12:29                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-10-06 13:23                                 ` Mark Brown
2023-10-19 17:08                             ` Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/36] arm64/sysreg: Add new system registers for GCS Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/36] arm64/sysreg: Add definitions for architected GCS caps Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/36] arm64/gcs: Add manual encodings of GCS instructions Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/36] arm64/gcs: Provide copy_to_user_gcs() Mark Brown
2023-08-11 16:36   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-16 18:26     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/36] arm64/cpufeature: Runtime detection of Guarded Control Stack (GCS) Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/36] arm64/mm: Allocate PIE slots for EL0 guarded control stack Mark Brown
2023-08-11 14:23   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-15 23:21     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/36] mm: Define VM_SHADOW_STACK for arm64 when we support GCS Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 11/36] arm64/mm: Map pages for guarded control stack Mark Brown
2023-08-10 17:20   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/36] KVM: arm64: Manage GCS registers for guests Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/36] arm64/gcs: Allow GCS usage at EL0 and EL1 Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 14/36] arm64/idreg: Add overrride for GCS Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 15/36] arm64/hwcap: Add hwcap " Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 16/36] arm64/traps: Handle GCS exceptions Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 17/36] arm64/mm: Handle GCS data aborts Mark Brown
2023-08-11 15:09   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-15 23:54     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 18/36] arm64/gcs: Context switch GCS state for EL0 Mark Brown
2023-08-11 15:32   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-16 18:15     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-22 16:34       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-22 17:01         ` Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 19/36] arm64/gcs: Allocate a new GCS for threads with GCS enabled Mark Brown
2023-08-11 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-18 20:15     ` Mark Brown [this message]
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 20/36] arm64/gcs: Implement shadow stack prctl() interface Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 21/36] arm64/mm: Implement map_shadow_stack() Mark Brown
2023-08-11 16:38   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-18 17:08     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-22 16:40       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-08-22 17:05         ` Mark Brown
2023-08-15 20:42   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-08-15 21:01     ` Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 22/36] arm64/signal: Set up and restore the GCS context for signal handlers Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 23/36] arm64/signal: Expose GCS state in signal frames Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 24/36] arm64/ptrace: Expose GCS via ptrace and core files Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 25/36] arm64: Add Kconfig for Guarded Control Stack (GCS) Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 26/36] kselftest/arm64: Verify the GCS hwcap Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 27/36] kselftest/arm64: Add GCS as a detected feature in the signal tests Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 28/36] kselftest/arm64: Add framework support for GCS to signal handling tests Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 29/36] kselftest/arm64: Allow signals tests to specify an expected si_code Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 30/36] kselftest/arm64: Always run signals tests with GCS enabled Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 31/36] kselftest/arm64: Add very basic GCS test program Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 32/36] kselftest/arm64: Add a GCS test program built with the system libc Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 33/36] kselftest/arm64: Add test coverage for GCS mode locking Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 34/36] selftests/arm64: Add GCS signal tests Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 35/36] kselftest/arm64: Add a GCS stress test Mark Brown
2023-08-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 36/36] kselftest/arm64: Enable GCS for the FP stress tests Mark Brown

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