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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: overcommit stuff
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:49:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D8D21C2.FFE42453@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209220238560.2497-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Hugh Dickins wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > It seems very unlikely (impossible?) that those pages will
> > > > ever become unshared.
> > >
> > > I expect it's very unlikely (short of application bugs) that
> > > those pages would become unshared; but they have been mapped
> > > in such a way that the process is entitled to unshare them,
> > > therefore they have been counted.  A good example of why
> > > Linux does not impose strict commit accounting, and why
> > > you may choose not to use Alan's strict accounting policy.
> >
> > OK, thanks.   Just checking.
> >
> > Is glibc mapping executables with PROT_WRITE?  If so,
> > doesn't that rather devalue the whole overcommit thing?
> 
> No, it looks like glibc is doing the right thing (mapping the code
> readonly and the data+bss readwrite).  And I was wrong to say it's
> unlikely those pages would ever become unshared: the four 0.5MB
> areas look like typical readwrite private anon allocations.
> 

hm.  That would be two megs of real memory per task?  So maybe
I wasn't running 10000 tasks.  It's hard to say - running ps
with that many processes in the machine appears to take longer
than I have left on this earth.

Maybe an `ls /proc | wc' would tell me.  Dunno; I've moved onto
other bugs for today.  Bill seems to be into this stuff.  Hopefully
he'll retest on the next -mm, which should be a bit nicer to
those-who-run-too-many-tiobenches.
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-22  1:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-21 23:27 Andrew Morton
2002-09-21 23:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-21 23:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-09-22  0:03   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-22  0:08     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-09-22  1:04       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-09-22  1:07         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-09-21 23:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-09-21 23:53   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-22  0:49     ` Hugh Dickins
2002-09-22  1:07       ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-22  1:45         ` Hugh Dickins
2002-09-22  1:49           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-09-21 23:53   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-22  1:12     ` Andrew Morton

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