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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] modified segq for 2.5
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:13:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D7D4747.5F73D7FB@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020910002123.GK18800@holomorphy.com>

William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> 
> William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> >> This seemed to work fine when I just tweaked problem areas to use
> >> __GFP_NOKILL. mempool was fixed by the __GFP_FS checks, but
> >> generic_file_read(), generic_file_write(), the rest of filemap.c,
> >> slab allocations, and allocating file descriptor tables for poll() and
> >> select() appeared to generate OOM when it appeared to me that failing
> >> system calls with -ENOMEM was a better alternative than shooting tasks.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 05:02:31PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > But clearly there is reclaimable pagecache down there; we just
> > have to wait for it.  No idea why you'd get an oom on ZONE_HIGHMEM,
> > but when I have a few more gigs I might be able to say.
> > Anyway, it's all too much scanning.
> 
> Well, there was no swap, and most things were dirty. Not sure about the
> rest. I was miffed by "Something tells it there's no memory and it
> shoots tasks instead of returning -ENOMEM to userspace in a syscall?"
> Saying "no" to the task allocating seems better than shooting tasks to
> me. out_of_memory() being called too early sounds bad, too, though.

If there is dirty memory or memory under writeback then
going oom or returning NULL is a bug.

It's just a search problem, and not a very complex one.  Per-zone
dirty accounting, per-zone throttling and a separate known-to-be-unreclaimable list should fix it up.  Give me
a few days to find a motivated moment...
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-10  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-15 14:24 Rik van Riel
2002-09-09  9:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 11:40   ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-09 17:10     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 18:58     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 13:10   ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 19:03     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 19:25       ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 19:55         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 20:03           ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 20:51         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 20:57           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 21:09           ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 21:52             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 22:41               ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-10  0:17                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:49           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 22:54             ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 23:32               ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 23:53                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 22:46   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:58     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 23:40       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-10  0:02         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-10  0:21           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-10  1:13             ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-09-10  1:50       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10  2:02         ` Rik van Riel

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