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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] modified segq for 2.5
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 15:58:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D7D277E.7E179FA0@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17oXIx-0006vb-00@starship>

Daniel Phillips wrote:
> 
> On Monday 09 September 2002 11:38, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > One thing this patch did do was to speed up the initial untar of
> > the kernel source - 50 seconds down to 25.  That'll be due to not
> > having so much dirt on the inactive list.  The "nonblocking page
> > reclaim" code (needs a better name...)
> 
> Nonblocking kswapd, no?  Perhaps 'kscand' would be a better name, now.

Well, it blocks still.  But it doesn't block on "this particular
request queue" or on "that particular page ending IO".  It
blocks on "any queue putting back a write request".   Which is
basically equivalent to blocking on "a bunch of pages came clean".

This logic is too global at present.  It really needs to be per-zone,
to fix an oom problem which you-know-who managed to trigger.  All
ZONE_NORMAL is dirty, we keep on getting woken up by IO completion in ZONE_HIGHMEM, we end up scanning enough ZONE_NORMAL pages to conclude
that we're oom.  (Plus I reduced the maximum-scan-before-oom by 2.5x)

Then again, Bill had twiddled the dirty memory thresholds
to permit 12G of dirty ZONE_HIGHMEM.

> > ...does that in 18 secs.
> 
> Woohoo!  I didn't think it would make *that* much difference, did you
> dig into why?

That's nuthin.  Some tests are 10-50 times faster.  Tests like
trying to compile something while some other process is doing a
bunch of big file writes.
 
> My reason for wanting nonblocking kswapd has always been to be able to
> untangle the multiple-simultaneous-scanners mess, which we are now in
> a good position to do.  Erm, it never occurred to me it would be as easy
> as checking whether the page *might* block and skipping it if so.
> 

Skipping is dumb.  It shouldn't have been on that list in the
first place.
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-09 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-15 14:24 Rik van Riel
2002-09-09  9:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 11:40   ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-09 17:10     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 18:58     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 13:10   ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 19:03     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 19:25       ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 19:55         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 20:03           ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 20:51         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 20:57           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 21:09           ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 21:52             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 22:41               ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-10  0:17                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:49           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 22:54             ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 23:32               ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 23:53                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 22:46   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:58     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-09-09 23:40       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-10  0:02         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-10  0:21           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-10  1:13             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-10  1:50       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10  2:02         ` Rik van Riel

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