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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] modified segq for 2.5
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:55:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D7CFCCC.1A6A686A@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0209091622470.1857-100000@imladris.surriel.com>

Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > >
> > > > I fiddled with it a bit:  did you forget to move the write(2) pages
> > > > to the inactive list?  I changed it to do that at IO completion.
> > > > It had little effect.  Probably should be looking at the page state
> > > > before doing that.
> > >
> > > Hmmm indeed, I forgot this.  Note that IO completion state is
> > > too late, since then you'll have already pushed other pages
> > > out to the inactive list...
> >
> > OK.  So how would you like to handle those pages?
> 
> Move them to the inactive list the moment we're done writing
> them, that is, the moment we move on to the next page. We
> wouldn't want to move the last page from /var/log/messages to
> the inactive list all the time ;)

That's easy.

> > > > The inactive list was smaller with this patch.  Around 10%
> > > > of allocatable memory usually.
> > >
> > > It should be a bit bigger than this, I think.  If it isn't
> > > something may be going wrong ;)
> >
> > Well the working set _was_ large.  Sure, we'll be running refill_inactive
> > a lot.  But spending some CPU in there with this sort of workload is the
> > right thing to do, if it ends up in better replacement decisions.  So
> > it doesn't seem to be a problem per-se?
> 
> OK, in that case there's no problem.  If the working set
> really does take 90% of RAM that's a good thing to know ;)

The working set appears to be 100.000% of RAM, hence the wild
swings in throughput when you give or take half a meg.
 
> > Generally, where do you want to go with this code?
> 
> If this code turns out to be more predictable and better
> or equal performance to use-once, I'd like to see it in
> the kernel.  Use-once seems just too hard to tune right
> for all workloads.
> 

gack.  How do we judge that, without waiting a month and
measuring the complaint level?  (Here I go again).
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-09 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-15 14:24 Rik van Riel
2002-09-09  9:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 11:40   ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-09 17:10     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 18:58     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 13:10   ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 19:03     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 19:25       ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 19:55         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-09-09 20:03           ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 20:51         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 20:57           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 21:09           ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 21:52             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 22:41               ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-10  0:17                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:49           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 22:54             ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 23:32               ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-09 23:53                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-09 22:46   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:58     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 23:40       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-10  0:02         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-10  0:21           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-10  1:13             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-10  1:50       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10  2:02         ` Rik van Riel

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