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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: throttling dirtiers
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:24:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D48639C.E0EF9B71@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0207311853150.23404-100000@imladris.surriel.com>

Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > These ingredients are already in 2.4-rmap.
> >
> > It doesn't seem to work.  The -ac kernel has weird stalls on
> > storms of ext3 writeback.
> 
> Maybe you shouldn't have cut off the other line from my
> 2-line mail ;)))
> 
> The most probable reason for the stalls is the fact that
> page_launder (like shrink_cache) will try to write out
> the complete inactive list if it's almost full of dirty
> pages, so the system will still be stuck in __get_request_wait
> seconds after the first few megabytes of the paged out
> inactive pages have been cleaned already.

I doubt if it's that, although it might be.

It happens just during a kernel build, 768M of RAM.  And/or
during big CVS operations.  Possibly it's due to ext3 checkpointing.
In ordered data mode with these workloads, kupdate should normally
be doing that, so it may be a kupdate problem, or a missing
wakeup_bdflush.

It's not a big issue - people would be unlikely to notice unless
they were switching between kernels, and were ravingly impatient,
like me.
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-31 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-31  8:26 Andrew Morton
2002-07-31 20:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-31 20:23   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-31 20:26     ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 20:59     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-31 21:02     ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-31 21:14       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-31 21:25         ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 21:32           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-31 21:55             ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 22:24               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-07-31 22:32                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 21:28         ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-31 21:35           ` Rik van Riel

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