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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: throttling dirtiers
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:02:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D48504B.9520455D@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020731162357.Q10270@redhat.com>

Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:06:12PM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> > I'm not a fan of this kind of global decision. For example, I/O devices
> > may be fast enough and memory small enough to dump all memory in < 1s,
> > in which case dirtying most or all of memory is okay from a latency
> > standpoint, or it may take hours to finish dumping out 40% of memory,
> > in which case it should be far more eager about writeback.
> 
> Why?  Filling the entire ram with dirty pages is okay, and in fact you
> want to support that behaviour for apps that "just fit" (think big
> scientific apps).  The only interesting point is that when you hit the
> limit of available memory, the system needs to block on *any* io
> completing and resulting in clean memory (which is reasonably low
> latency), not a specific io which may have very high latency.
> 

I hear what you say.  Sometimes we want to allow a lot of
writeback buffering.  But sometimes we don't.

But let's back off a bit.   The problem is that a process
doing a large write() can penalise innocent processes which
want to allocate memory.

How to fix that?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-31 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-31  8:26 Andrew Morton
2002-07-31 20:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-31 20:23   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-31 20:26     ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 20:59     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-31 21:02     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-07-31 21:14       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-31 21:25         ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 21:32           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-31 21:55             ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 22:24               ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-31 22:32                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 21:28         ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-31 21:35           ` Rik van Riel

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