From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: page_add/remove_rmap costs
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:15:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D3F0ACE.D4195BF@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0207241319550.3086-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
Rik van Riel wrote:
>
> ...
> > It is interesting to note that the length of the pte_chain is not a big
> > factor in all of this. So changing the singly-linked list to something
> > else probably won't help much.
>
> This is more disturbing ... ;)
Well yes. It may well indicate that my test is mostly LIFO
on the pte chains. So FIFO workloads would be worse.
> > My gut feel here is that this will be hard to tweak - some algorithmic
> > change will be needed.
> >
> > The pte_chains are doing precisely zilch but chew CPU cycles with this
> > workload. The machine has 2G of memory free. The rmap is pure overhead.
> >
> > Would it be possible to not build the pte_chain _at all_ until it is
> > actually needed? Do it lazily? So in the page reclaim code, if the
> > page has no rmap chain we go off and build it then? This would require
> > something like a pfn->pte lookup function at the vma level, and a
> > page->vmas_which_own_me lookup.
>
> > Then again, if the per-vma pfn->pte lookup is feasible, we may not need
> > the pte_chain at all...
>
> It is feasible, both davem and bcrl made code to this effect. The
> only problem with that code is that it gets ugly quick after mremap.
So.. who's going to do it?
It's early days yet - although this looks bad on benchmarks we really
need a better understanding of _why_ it's so bad, and of whether it
really matters for real workloads.
For example: given that copy_page_range performs atomic ops against
page->count, how come page_add_rmap()'s atomic op against page->flags
is more of a problem?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-24 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-24 6:33 Andrew Morton
2002-07-24 6:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-24 16:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-24 20:15 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-07-24 20:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-24 20:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 2:35 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-25 3:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 3:14 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-25 4:21 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 2:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 4:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 5:14 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 5:15 ` John Levon
2002-07-25 5:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 5:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 5:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-25 5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-25 7:09 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-26 7:33 ` Daniel Phillips
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