From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>,
John Levon <levon@movementarian.org>
Subject: Re: vm lock contention reduction
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 20:47:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D27B9EA.E68B11E@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207061949240.1558-100000@home.transmeta.com>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > Martin is being bitten by the global invalidate more than by the lock.
> > He increased the size of the kmap pool just to reduce the invalidate
> > frequency and saw 40% speedups of some stuff.
> >
> > Those invalidates don't show up nicely on profiles.
>
> I'd like to enhance the profiling support a bit, to create some
> infrastructure for doing different kinds of profiles, not just the current
> timer-based one (and not just for the kernel).
>
> There's also the P4 native support for "event buffers" or whatever intel
> calls them, that allows profiling at a lower level by interrupting not for
> every event, but only when the hw buffer overflows.
>
> I haven't had much time to look at the oprofile thing, but what I _have_
> seen has made me rather unhappy (especially the horrid system call
> tracking kludges).
>
> I'd rather have some generic hooks (a notion of a "profile buffer" and
> events that cause us to have to synchronize with it, like process
> switches, mmap/munmap - oprofile wants these too), and some generic helper
> routines for profiling (turn any eip into a "dentry + offset" pair
> together with ways to tag specific dentries as being "worthy" of
> profiling).
>
> Depending on the regular timer interrupt will never give good profiles,
> simply because it can't be NMI, but also because you then don't have the
> choice of using other counters (cache miss etc).
>
> oprofile does much of this, but in a damn ugly manner.
>
I pinged John about an oprofile merge just the other day actually.
He agrees with you on the syscall table thing. I think he says
that it could be cleaned up if oprofile was in the tree. Ditto
the issue with mmap.
I was able to isolate and fix some fairly hairy performance problems
at work with oprofile. It's a great tool - I use it all the time. And
it profiles the entire system - right down to file-n-line in some random
shared object. With NMIs. It is not just a kernel tool.
So. John. Get coding :-)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-07 3:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-04 23:05 Andrew Morton
2002-07-04 23:26 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-04 23:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 1:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 1:49 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 2:18 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 2:16 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 2:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 3:52 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-05 4:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 5:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 5:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 6:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 6:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-05 6:33 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 7:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-07 2:50 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 3:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 3:47 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-07-08 11:39 ` Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) John Levon
2002-07-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 18:41 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 2:22 ` John Levon
2002-07-10 4:16 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 4:38 ` John Levon
2002-07-10 5:46 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 13:10 ` bob
2002-07-07 5:16 ` vm lock contention reduction Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 6:13 ` scalable kmap (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 6:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 7:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 9:04 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 16:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 7:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 8:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 14:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-08 20:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 21:08 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 22:24 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-07 16:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 7:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 10:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-08 7:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 17:29 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-08 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-09 0:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 3:17 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 4:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 5:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 6:15 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 6:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 6:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 16:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 17:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-10 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 22:43 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-10 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 23:26 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-11 0:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-12 17:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-13 11:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-09 13:59 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08 0:38 ` vm lock contention reduction William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05 6:46 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 14:25 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 23:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05 23:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-06 0:11 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06 0:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-06 0:45 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 0:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
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