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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>,
	John Levon <levon@movementarian.org>
Subject: Re: vm lock contention reduction
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 20:47:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D27B9EA.E68B11E@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207061949240.1558-100000@home.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > Martin is being bitten by the global invalidate more than by the lock.
> > He increased the size of the kmap pool just to reduce the invalidate
> > frequency and saw 40% speedups of some stuff.
> >
> > Those invalidates don't show up nicely on profiles.
> 
> I'd like to enhance the profiling support a bit, to create some
> infrastructure for doing different kinds of profiles, not just the current
> timer-based one (and not just for the kernel).
> 
> There's also the P4 native support for "event buffers" or whatever intel
> calls them, that allows profiling at a lower level by interrupting not for
> every event, but only when the hw buffer overflows.
> 
> I haven't had much time to look at the oprofile thing, but what I _have_
> seen has made me rather unhappy (especially the horrid system call
> tracking kludges).
> 
> I'd rather have some generic hooks (a notion of a "profile buffer" and
> events that cause us to have to synchronize with it, like process
> switches, mmap/munmap - oprofile wants these too), and some generic helper
> routines for profiling (turn any eip into a "dentry + offset" pair
> together with ways to tag specific dentries as being "worthy" of
> profiling).
> 
> Depending on the regular timer interrupt will never give good profiles,
> simply because it can't be NMI, but also because you then don't have the
> choice of using other counters (cache miss etc).
> 
> oprofile does much of this, but in a damn ugly manner.
> 

I pinged John about an oprofile merge just the other day actually.
He agrees with you on the syscall table thing.  I think he says
that it could be cleaned up if oprofile was in the tree.  Ditto
the issue with mmap.

I was able to isolate and fix some fairly hairy performance problems
at work with oprofile.  It's a great tool - I use it all the time.  And
it profiles the entire system - right down to file-n-line in some random
shared object.  With NMIs.  It is not just a kernel tool.

So.  John.  Get coding :-)

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-07  3:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-04 23:05 Andrew Morton
2002-07-04 23:26 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-04 23:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05  1:37   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  1:49     ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05  2:18       ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  2:16         ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05  2:53           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  3:52             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-05  4:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05  5:38             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  5:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05  6:08                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05  6:27                   ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-05  6:33                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05  7:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-07  2:50                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07  3:05                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07  3:47                           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-07-08 11:39                             ` Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) John Levon
2002-07-08 17:52                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 18:41                                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10  2:22                                   ` John Levon
2002-07-10  4:16                                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10  4:38                                       ` John Levon
2002-07-10  5:46                                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 13:10                                         ` bob
2002-07-07  5:16                           ` vm lock contention reduction Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07  6:13                         ` scalable kmap (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07  6:37                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07  7:53                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07  9:04                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 16:13                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:31                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 18:55                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 19:02                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08  7:24                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08  8:09                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 14:50                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-08 20:39                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 21:08                                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08 21:45                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 22:24                                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-07 16:00                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:28                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08  7:11                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 10:15                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-08  7:00                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 17:29                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-08 22:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-09  0:16                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09  3:17                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09  4:28                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09  5:28                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09  6:15                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09  6:30                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09  6:32                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 16:08                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 17:32                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-10  5:32                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 22:43                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-10 23:08                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 23:26                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-11  0:19                                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-12 17:48                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-13 11:18                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-09 13:59                               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08  0:38                         ` vm lock contention reduction William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05  6:46                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 14:25                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 23:11         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05 23:48           ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-06  0:11             ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06  0:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-06  0:45                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06  0:48               ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08  0:59                 ` William Lee Irwin III

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