From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
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Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
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Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 03/10] mm/vma: rename is_vma_write_only(), separate out shared refcount put
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 14:02:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <39d0c3b8-b38c-4a1c-a2da-a99440884560@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6f45d01a-7586-4d8a-8339-fdfbda4c971e@suse.cz>
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 06:36:03PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 1/22/26 14:01, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > The is_vma_writer_only() function is misnamed - this isn't determining if
> > there is only a write lock, as it checks for the presence of the
> > VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG.
> >
> > Really, it is checking to see whether readers are excluded, with a
> > possibility of a false positive in the case of a detachment (there we
> > expect the vma->vm_refcnt to eventually be set to
> > VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG, whereas for an attached VMA we expect it to
> > eventually be set to VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG + 1).
> >
> > Rename the function accordingly.
> >
> > Relatedly, we use a finnicky __refcount_dec_and_test() primitive directly
> > in vma_refcount_put(), using the old value to determine what the reference
> > count ought to be after the operation is complete (ignoring racing
> > reference count adjustments).
> >
> > Wrap this into a __vma_refcount_put() function, which we can then utilise
> > in vma_mark_detached() and thus keep the refcount primitive usage
> > abstracted.
> >
> > Also adjust comments, removing duplicative comments covered elsewhere and
> > adding more to aid understanding.
> >
> > No functional change intended.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
>
> Again very useful, thanks!
Thanks.
>
> > ---
> > include/linux/mmap_lock.h | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
> > mm/mmap_lock.c | 18 +++++-------
> > 2 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/mmap_lock.h b/include/linux/mmap_lock.h
> > index a764439d0276..0b3614aadbb4 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/mmap_lock.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mmap_lock.h
> > @@ -122,15 +122,27 @@ static inline void vma_lock_init(struct vm_area_struct *vma, bool reset_refcnt)
> > vma->vm_lock_seq = UINT_MAX;
> > }
> >
> > -static inline bool is_vma_writer_only(int refcnt)
> > +/**
> > + * are_readers_excluded() - Determine whether @refcnt describes a VMA which has
> > + * excluded all VMA read locks.
> > + * @refcnt: The VMA reference count obtained from vm_area_struct->vm_refcnt.
> > + *
> > + * We may be raced by other readers temporarily incrementing the reference
> > + * count, though the race window is very small, this might cause spurious
> > + * wakeups.
>
> I think this part about spurious wakeups belongs more to the usage of the
> function in vma_refcount_put()? Because there are no wakeups done here. So
> it should be enough to explain how it can be false positive like in the
> paragraph below.
OK moved the paragraph to vma_refcount_put().
>
> > + *
> > + * In the case of a detached VMA, we may incorrectly indicate that readers are
> > + * excluded when one remains, because in that scenario we target a refcount of
> > + * VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG, rather than the attached target of
> > + * VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG + 1.
> > + *
> > + * However, the race window for that is very small so it is unlikely.
> > + *
> > + * Returns: true if readers are excluded, false otherwise.
> > + */
> > +static inline bool are_readers_excluded(int refcnt)
>
> I wonder if a include/linux/ header should have such a generically named
> function (I understand it's necessary for it to be here). Maybe prefix the
> name and make the comment not a kerneldoc because it's going to be only the
> vma locking implementation using it and not the vma locking end-users? (i.e.
> it's "intermediate").
OK, renamed to __vma_are_readers_excluded() and dropped the kdoc.
>
> > {
> > /*
> > - * With a writer and no readers, refcnt is VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG
> > - * if the vma is detached and (VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG + 1) if it is
> > - * attached. Waiting on a detached vma happens only in
> > - * vma_mark_detached() and is a rare case, therefore most of the time
> > - * there will be no unnecessary wakeup.
> > - *
> > * See the comment describing the vm_area_struct->vm_refcnt field for
> > * details of possible refcnt values.
> > */
> > @@ -138,18 +150,42 @@ static inline bool is_vma_writer_only(int refcnt)
> > refcnt <= VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG + 1;
> > }
> >
> > +static inline bool __vma_refcount_put(struct vm_area_struct *vma, int *refcnt)
>
> Basically change are_readers_excluded() like this, with __vma prefix?
Yup did that already.
>
> But this one could IMHO use use some comment (also not kerneldoc) saying
> what the return value and *refcnt indicate?
I felt doing that would be overdocumenting... I've had people moan about that
before :) but sure makes sense.
Added:
/*
* Actually decrement the VMA reference count.
*
* The functions sets *refcnt to the reference count immediately prior to the
* decrement if refcnt is not NULL.
*
* Returns true if the decrement resulted in the VMA being detached
* (i.e. reduced it to zero), or false otherwise.
*/
Cheers, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-23 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-22 13:01 [PATCH RESEND v3 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 01/10] mm/vma: rename VMA_LOCK_OFFSET to VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:26 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 16:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 13:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:37 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 13:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 02/10] mm/vma: document possible vma->vm_refcnt values and reference comment Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 17:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 15:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 13:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 03/10] mm/vma: rename is_vma_write_only(), separate out shared refcount put Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 17:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 19:31 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 8:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 14:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 15:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 14:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 10:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 14:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 04/10] mm/vma: add+use vma lockdep acquire/release defines Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 19:32 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-22 19:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 8:41 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 15:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 8:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 05/10] mm/vma: de-duplicate __vma_enter_locked() error path Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 19:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 15:11 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 8:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] mm/vma: clean up __vma_enter/exit_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 20:15 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-22 20:55 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-23 16:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 9:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 16:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 07/10] mm/vma: introduce helper struct + thread through exclusive lock fns Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 21:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 17:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 19:34 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 20:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 22:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-24 8:54 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 6:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 10:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 08/10] mm/vma: improve and document __is_vma_write_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 21:55 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 16:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 17:42 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 09/10] mm/vma: update vma_assert_locked() to use lockdep Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 22:02 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 10/10] mm/vma: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 22:12 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:54 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 17:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 23:35 ` Hillf Danton
2026-01-22 15:48 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Andrew Morton
2026-01-22 15:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:01 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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