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* [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
@ 2000-07-15 23:07 Roger Larsson
  2000-07-16  8:16 ` Mike Galbraith
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Roger Larsson @ 2000-07-15 23:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linus Torvalds, linux-kernel, linux-mm

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Hi,

Since I am responsible for messing up some aspects of vm
(when fixing others)
here is a patch that tries to solve the introduced problems.

* no more periodic wake up of kswapd - not needed anymore
* no more freeing all zones to (free_pages > pages_high)
* always wakes kswapd up after try_to_free_pages
* always wakes kswapd up when (free_pages < pages_low)
* remove keep_kswapd_awake() function - not needed anymore

/RogerL

Note: Includes Riels "[PATCH] 2.4.0-test4 kswapd rebalancing fix"

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--- linux/mm/vmscan.c.orig	Sat Jul 15 23:44:34 2000
+++ linux/mm/vmscan.c	Sun Jul 16 00:57:00 2000
@@ -439,26 +439,6 @@ static inline int memory_pressure(void)
 	return 0;
 }
 
-/*
- * Check if there recently has been memory pressure (zone_wake_kswapd)
- */
-static inline int keep_kswapd_awake(void)
-{
-	pg_data_t *pgdat = pgdat_list;
-
-	do {
-		int i;
-		for(i = 0; i < MAX_NR_ZONES; i++) {
-			zone_t *zone = pgdat->node_zones+ i;
-			if (zone->size &&
-			    zone->zone_wake_kswapd)
-				return 1;
-		}
-		pgdat = pgdat->node_next;
-	} while (pgdat);
-
-	return 0;
-}
 
 /*
  * We need to make the locks finer granularity, but right
@@ -499,7 +479,7 @@ static int do_try_to_free_pages(unsigned
 		/* not (been) low on memory - it is
 		 * pointless to try to swap out.
 		 */
-		if (!keep_kswapd_awake())
+		if (!memory_pressure())
 			goto done;
 
 		/* Try to get rid of some shared memory pages.. */
@@ -520,7 +500,7 @@ static int do_try_to_free_pages(unsigned
 			 *	if (count <= 0)
 			 *		goto done;
 			 */
-			if (!keep_kswapd_awake())
+			if (!memory_pressure())
 				goto done;
 
 			while (shm_swap(priority, gfp_mask)) {
@@ -595,11 +575,8 @@ int kswapd(void *unused)
 	tsk->flags |= PF_MEMALLOC;
 
 	for (;;) {
-		if (!keep_kswapd_awake()) {
-			/* wake up regulary to do an early attempt too free
-			 * pages - pages will not actually be freed.
-			 */
-			interruptible_sleep_on_timeout(&kswapd_wait, HZ);
+		if (!memory_pressure()) {
+			interruptible_sleep_on(&kswapd_wait);
 		}
 
 		do_try_to_free_pages(GFP_KSWAPD);
@@ -631,18 +608,18 @@ int try_to_free_pages(unsigned int gfp_m
 		retval = do_try_to_free_pages(gfp_mask);
 		current->flags &= ~PF_MEMALLOC;
 	}
-	else {
-		/* make sure kswapd runs */
-		if (waitqueue_active(&kswapd_wait))
-			wake_up_interruptible(&kswapd_wait);
-	}
+
+	/* someone needed memory that kswapd had not provided
+	 * make sure kswapd runs, should not happen often */
+	if (waitqueue_active(&kswapd_wait))
+	  wake_up_interruptible(&kswapd_wait);
 
 	return retval;
 }
 
 static int __init kswapd_init(void)
 {
-	printk("Starting kswapd v1.6\n");
+	printk("Starting kswapd v1.7\n");
 	swap_setup();
 	kernel_thread(kswapd, NULL, CLONE_FS | CLONE_FILES | CLONE_SIGHAND);
 	return 0;
--- linux/mm/page_alloc.c.orig	Sat Jul 15 23:44:46 2000
+++ linux/mm/page_alloc.c	Sat Jul 15 23:55:55 2000
@@ -275,8 +275,16 @@ struct page * __alloc_pages(zonelist_t *
 			break;
 		if (!z->low_on_memory) {
 			struct page *page = rmqueue(z, order);
-			if (z->free_pages < z->pages_min)
+			if (z->free_pages < z->pages_min) {
 				z->low_on_memory = 1;
+				/* Suppose all zones have zone_wake_kswapd set
+				 * but kswapd has stopped running due to
+				 * no memory_pressure()
+				 */
+				z->zone_wake_kswapd = 1; /* should be set already */
+				if (waitqueue_active(&kswapd_wait))
+					wake_up_interruptible(&kswapd_wait);
+			}
 			if (page)
 				return page;
 		}

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* Re: [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
  2000-07-15 23:07 [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix Roger Larsson
@ 2000-07-16  8:16 ` Mike Galbraith
  2000-07-16 19:33   ` Rik van Riel
  2000-07-17 17:21   ` Mark Hahn
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mike Galbraith @ 2000-07-16  8:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roger Larsson; +Cc: Linus Torvalds, linux-kernel, linux-mm

On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Roger Larsson wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Since I am responsible for messing up some aspects of vm
> (when fixing others)
> here is a patch that tries to solve the introduced problems.
> 
> * no more periodic wake up of kswapd - not needed anymore
> * no more freeing all zones to (free_pages > pages_high)
> * always wakes kswapd up after try_to_free_pages
> * always wakes kswapd up when (free_pages < pages_low)
> * remove keep_kswapd_awake() function - not needed anymore
> 
> /RogerL
> 
> Note: Includes Riels "[PATCH] 2.4.0-test4 kswapd rebalancing fix"

Hi Roger,

Unfortunately, this didn't improve anything here.  A make -j30 bzImage
is taking >12 minutes to complete with much idle time.  (classzone keeps
same 30 hungry tasks fed/running most of the time - finishes in ~7 min)

In the vmstat 1 output below, note the large stalls - despite vmstat
running SCHED_RR+mlockall - usually followed by long periods with few
runnable tasks.  In >40 manhours of generic beating on my generic box,
this is a common item.. not limited to make -j test.

(sorry about size, but some folks don't like/look at gzipped attachments)

	-Mike

RFC concerning make -j30 bzImage as basic VM test:
Rik called this an 'odd' workload.  IMHO it is an excellent basic VM test
(IFF the size of the job is adjusted to _not quite_ fit in ram).  In my
experience, kernels which do well at this tend to get good reviews across
the board.

time make -j30 bzImage on 128mb PIII/500 w. single ide drive.

real    12m5.512s  (best of 10, worst was over 16m)
user    6m29.030s
sys     0m34.950s

(12 minutes at 1 line/sec = 333 lines...  yuk)

   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
 1  0  0      0  52000   3776  54580   0   0   438     8  156   112  18  56  26
 0  0  0      0  51984   3776  54580   0   0     0     0  106     6   0  98   2
 0  0  0      0  51984   3776  54580   0   0     0     0  103     4   0  98   2
 0  1  1      0  50792   3796  54724   0   0   139   187  189   329  36  35  30
 0  1  1      0  50560   3816  54844   0   0   118    73  211   198   1  54  45
 0  1  1      0  50204   3824  55160   0   0   236    85  231   157   3  68  28
 0  2  1      0  50412   3824  55248   0   0    68   117  176   131  30  64   6
 0  1  1      0  49908   3844  55376   0   0   141    74  179   199   0  50  50
 0  1  1      0  50308   3844  55348   0   0    20   158  217   127   4  73  23
 0  1  0      0  50156   3844  55500   0   0    38    38  194   167   0  57  43
 0  1  1      0  49992   3844  55660   0   0    40     0  190   112   0  49  51
 1  0  0      0  49824   3844  55824   0   0    41     0  194   116   0  45  55
 0  1  0      0  49128   3844  56512   0   0   172     0  273   386   0  21  79
 0  1  1      0  48288   3848  57332   0   0   209     0  310   463   1  11  88
11  1  0      0  43264   3856  58008   0   0   374     0  251   353  64  18  19
14  0  0      0  39012   3860  58636   0   0   413     0  246   313  97   3   0
20  3  0      0  33724   3864  59016   0   0   314     0  178   177  89  11   0
32  0  0      0  27788   3868  59260   0   0   201     0  146   152  91   9   0
31  5  0      0  24584   3872  59312   0   0    22     0  119    50  94   6   0
31  2  0      0  17088   3876  59648   0   0   225     0  167   177  96   4   0
31  8  0      0  14332   3876  59648   0   0     0     0  102    31  94   6   0
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
34  3  0      0   6652   3880  59752   0   0    83     0  121    84  90  10   0
32 11  0      0  10388    936  59304   0   0     1   214  140   127  88  12   0
21 16  1      0   4380    956  59348   0   0    48     0  218   193  92   8   0
35  0  1    712   2772    616  57344   0 716    31   360  247   181  83  17   0
29  4  0   3272   2212    556  57372   0 2568    65   673  193   120  91   9   0
31  1  0   3384   2284    616  52300   0 136   141    34  154   236  92   8   0
31  3  0   3452   2528    628  48160   0  68    37    17  124   193  92   8   0
31  5  0   3588   2124    644  40996 120 136    56    60  153   262  91   9   0
31 14  0   3860   2620    696  33412 208 272   166    70  158   318  89  11   0
30 19  0   4184   2064    732  24952   4 340   449    95  217   397  88  12   0
29 10  0   4480   1460    780  16036  32 408   582   109  239   483  84  16   0
20 15  0   4640   2280    688  10068 332 612   642   205  220   306  87  13   0
15 22  1   4912   1748    572   6032 128 688   333   333  235   354  92   8   0
17 18  1   4372   3604    584   6688 980   0   364     3  217   357  93   7   0
10 28  2   6672   7260    528   5976 916 3596  2102  1037 1457  2499  93   7   0
10 25  0   6276  15164    560   6340 148   0   263     3  198   451  93   7   0
14 18  0   6212  11004    592   7692 696   0   841     0  204   441  94   6   0
12 20  0   5920  14308    664   8336 120   0   724     0  208   371  91   9   0
18 15  0   5908  12484    680   8848 112   0   394     0  206   406  94   6   0
14 19  0   5672   5108    704   9720 908   0   339     0  229   484  81  19   0
25  7  2   6404   2076    684  10608 2500 3512  5500  1438 3203  5508  90   9   1
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
27  7  0  11020   3616    516   4320   0 4876   460  1619  455   754  89  11   0
19 15  2  15872   4876    412   4020   0 5040   434  1282  445   869  83   9   8
13 20  2  26596   7624    324   6700 5696 12964  1850  3303 1318  2583  71  12  17
15 18  1  26272   4392    332   7712 1032   0   292     0  221   290  92   8   0
15 18  1  25400   8948    348   8236 560   0   240     0  206   316  95   5   0
12 21  1  24788  11952    368   8628 228   0   310     0  243   361  94   6   0
13 19  1  24364  12576    412   9076 168   0   404     0  219   387  91   9   0
10 20  1  23880  17680    472  10404 608   0   976     0  225   372  94   6   0
10 21  1  23048  23324    484  11868 1380   0   620     0  186   281  93   7   0
10 20  0  22452  21824    508  12624 588   0   292     0  206   381  97   3   0
11 22  0  21884  25628    608  12892 344   0   240     0  198   345  95   5   0
17 26  0  21180  36512    644  13664 296   0   722     0  208   336  93   7   0
 4 36  0  20236  37208    664  17268 3920   0  1263     0  494   793  93   7   0
 4 31  1  18816  40448    688  17704 968   0   327     0  194   276  90  10   0
 4 30  1  18604  37512    696  18092 500   0   155     0  231   302  94   6   0
 7 26  1  18176  34728    720  18264 144   0   161     0  190   666  97   3   0
21 17  0  18144  28432    744  18480  24   0   188     0  203   776  89  11   0
31  7  0  18132  18856    768  18728   4   0   207     0  193   240  89  11   0
30 10  0  18096   9680    792  19164 132   0   324     0  191   422  92   8   0
37  3  0  15556   6968    788  12092 424   0   325    19  165   353  88  12   0
27  3  1  18940  23724    640  12624 11008 8948  9705  3006 5284  7710  63  10  28
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
28  5  1  18912  15808    648  12812 104   0   136    10  152   345  89  11   0
32  0  0  18912   6536    668  13304   0   0   398     0  222   421  95   5   0
30  0  0  18464   2320    648   9564   0   0    63    12  124   303  96   4   0
26  4  1  28688   2124    392   5536 912 10756   314  3110  664  1878  79  11  10
22  8  1  34980   6520    428   7304 4696 6996  2340  1772  852  1991  76  15   9
16 13  2  31940  12052    480  12828 12328   0  4521    53 2114  2658  56   9  35
18 13  0  30704  11908    520  13532 484   0   594     0  267   380  94   6   0
16 14  0  30292  14076    564  13892 160   0   243     0  213   323  98   2   0
13 17  0  30272  15996    580  14256  44   0   266     0  196   374  92   8   0
16 17  0  29204  28628    596  14452 324   0   231     0  202   472  92   8   0
13 30  1  28444  28440    624  14872 496   0   224     0  216   519  91   9   0
 8 30  1  27960  39304    640  15224 528   0   240     0  215   415  90  10   0
 7 32  1  27532  37348    648  16008 772   0   246     0  210   320  88  13   0
 7 28  1  26844  37236    648  16404 640   0   274     0  206   353  94   6   0
 6 24  1  26820  38828    672  16768  80   0   274     0  199   537  92   8   0
 6 24  1  26656  40184    676  17124 188   0   217     0  187   576  90  10   0
 8 23  1  26160  37260    708  17068 208   0   222     0  193   508  90  10   0
19 12  1  26144  34360    748  17488   0   0   341     0  212   463  87  13   0
21 12  1  26144  25116    788  17884  36   0   344     0  210   435  91   9   0
22 12  0  25676  19760    812  18236 192   0   305     0  189   462  90  10   0
27  3  0  25396  16728    848  18388  76   0   169     0  207   458  88  12   0
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
33  1  0  25376   7592    852  18840  44   0   292     0  202   418  93   7   0
31  0  0  23220   6296    860  12904  80 356    34   123  169   347  90  10   0
30  1  0  21228   3504    664   9604  20   0    15   495  159   303  90  10   0
28  2  1  23624   5368    368   6160 604 2744   422   845  451   702  89  11   0
16 16  1  67628   6552    332   7124 14852 45668  6925 11475 3605  7525  70  11  19
14 13  1  46900  63392    340  14304 9096   0  2713     0 1916  2382  96   4   0
 4 26  0  45848  65716    356  15052 736   0   429     0  251   298  98   2   0
 3 28  0  44716  71556    392  15820 1004   0   444     0  317   346  96   4   0
 2 30  0  42572  78660    396  17168 1788   0   542     0  325   430  95   5   0
 3 27  1  41160  84244    404  17736 868   0   289     0  231   319  83   5  12
 1 29  2  40696  84236    412  18192 756   0   195     0  224   321  43   4  53
 1 29  0  40568  83224    432  18484 356   0   134     0  209   256  73   5  22
 1 32  1  37412  86220    440  18444 1432   0   370     0  496   729  34   5  61
 0 32  0  37228  86772    464  18928 484   0   249     0  235   359   5  14  82
 2 35  0  36948  86600    540  19808 892   0   498     0  469   622   2  10  88
 0 39  2  36948  83668    572  20412 164   0   493     0  217   258   2  17  81
 1 36  1  36828  83292    592  20792 292   0   183     0  206   285   3  13  84
 2 32  1  36520  81708    600  21348 704   0   214     0  226   284   4  12  84
 1 33  2  36452  79308    604  21964 640   0   201     0  218   271   5  16  80
 1 34  1  36412  76652    608  22844 776   0   236     0  237   295   3  19  78
 0 36  2  35308  75660    620  23404 1356   0   364     0  389   487   1  10  90
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
 1 38  1  34796  74688    628  23380 336   0   111     0  201   274   6  13  82
 0 37  1  34768  70912    652  23620 112   0   154     0  187   387  12  15  72
 1 35  1  34744  67508    664  23908 128   0   177     0  190   609  20  12  68
 3 34  1  34728  66216    676  24412 280   0   246     0  194   423  10  20  70
 6 31  1  34284  64564    688  24612 268   0   258     0  233   679   6  14  79
 2 35  1  34280  61900    696  25136 372   0   208     0  244   813  13  16  72
 2 35  2  33780  61148    716  25160 236   0   212     0  200   444  13  21  66
 5 29  1  33728  58308    720  25400 156   0   138     5  186   577  19  24  56
16 18  0  33676  52856    728  25756 248   0   191     0  206   597  51  13  36
 9 27  0  32784  52148    736  25444 200   0   310     0  212   406  65   4  31
17 20  0  32764  40940    752  25872  76   0   337     0  208   460  82  18   0
15 18  1  32524  33024    768  26172 228   0   253     0  197   455  95   5   0
18 13  0  32484  25564    780  26376 156   0   119     3  178   445  93   7   0
24  8  0  32468  17644    788  26644 192   0   114     0  189   481  89  11   0
38  3  0  31972   8816    800  26624 220   0   130     0  185   424  92   8   0
32  2  0  24892   7408    796  17824  48   0    49    16  137   264  85  15   0
32  0  2  18536   8108    716  10140   0   0    91   391  209   356  97   3   0
29  1  0  18468   2624    644   8528   0 176    87   321  237   350  94   6   0
19 13  1  59208   1548    200   6852 9188 41644  5319 10632 2719  6203  57  16  27
 2 31  2  42120  96592    208  14588 20792 8872  5796  2220 3974  5417  59   5  35
 0 30  2  41088  95540    220  16052 1316   0   692     0  231   294   3  20  78
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
 3 29  2  41004  92688    232  18484 2300   0   777     0  249   284   1  17  82
 0 30  2  40736  90764    276  19932 1068   0   871     0  211   283   2  11  88
 0 31  3  40184  89748    288  20744 1160   0   338     0  212   309   0  20  80
 1 29  2  39652  89232    304  21216 852   0   227     0  203   320   4  13  84
 0 31  3  38420  90168    308  20956 576   0   162     0  250   415   6  11  83
 0 30  3  37704  90192    316  20964 492   0   128     0  224   347   3  10  88
 1 29  2  37624  89436    364  21228 336   0   136     0  205   218   1  19  80
 0 39  3  37424  86800    376  21664 368   0   347     0  214   369   6  13  82
 0 40  2  37320  86736    388  21940 260   0   151     0  204   264   4  20  76
 0 42  3  37296  84452    408  22288 216   0   192     0  201   334   3  14  83
 0 37  3  37164  82808    424  22640 412   0   154     0  211   348   6  21  73
 1 36  3  36988  76488    436  22912 360   0   176     0  215   313  11  13  77
 0 35  2  36936  73720    448  23192 152   0   203     0  183   387   8  18  74
 1 33  3  36908  70824    464  23460 128   0   164     0  189   498  10  17  73
 1 34  2  36884  68648    520  23644  80   0   158     0  190   453  14  21  65
14 16  3  36880  67312    548  24136  36   0   419     0  195   698  14  19  67
 1 30  2  36808  61468    556  24540 172   0   275     0  195   781  29  15  56
20 14  3  36692  55904    572  25052  88   0   366     0  187   728  64  12  24
 9 24  2  36684  48228    604  25396  32   0   278     0  221   618  69   9  22
12 21  2  36624  39304    620  25764 124   0   290     0  210   507  91   9   0
18 14  2  36616  30468    664  26164   0   0   385     0  203   483  94   6   0
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
34  5  0  36576  20600    700  26316  60   0   131     3  188   452  86  14   0
30  1  0  36568  10904    712  26372   0   0    57     0  130   319  91   9   0
31  0  0  36568   3096    712  26376   0   0     1     0  104   377  98   2   0
30  0  0  22804  12724    560  10024   0   0     7   482  136   376  93   7   0
30  0  0  22804   4992    560  10024   0   0     0     0  103   326  91   9   0
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   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
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   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
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   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
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   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
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26  7  0  20136  37624    788  23528 232   0   244     0  191   361  93   7   0
28  6  0  20136  29704    804  23584  32   0    32     0  136   288  88  12   0
36  5  0  20128  18344    828  23700  12   0   133   110  148   297  87  13   0
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   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
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19 11  1  19620  69984    728  21556  16   0   280     0  212   443  73  11  17
25  5  0  19616  61628    740  21928  48   0   273     0  174   373  88  12   0
31  4  0  19612  50268    748  22084  12   0   154     0  124   269  89  11   0
31  5  0  19612  41476    768  22192   0   0    93     0  145   342  90  10   0
32  4  0  19608  31616    772  22280  40   0    48     0  126   364  86  14   0
32  2  0  19212  22504    772  22364 332   0    95     0  165   467  93   7   0
32  2  0  19212  13260    792  22420   0   0    63     0  129   300  94   6   0
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30  0  0   5932   1796    560   4200   0   0    26   746  288   480  92   8   0
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy  id
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* Re: [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
  2000-07-16  8:16 ` Mike Galbraith
@ 2000-07-16 19:33   ` Rik van Riel
  2000-07-17  7:10     ` Roger Larsson
  2000-07-17  7:46     ` Mike Galbraith
  2000-07-17 17:21   ` Mark Hahn
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rik van Riel @ 2000-07-16 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Galbraith; +Cc: Roger Larsson, Linus Torvalds, linux-kernel, linux-mm

On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Roger Larsson wrote:
> 
> > Since I am responsible for messing up some aspects of vm
> > (when fixing others)
> > here is a patch that tries to solve the introduced problems.

> Unfortunately, this didn't improve anything here.

As was to be expected ...

Roger, I thought I explained you yesterday why stuff didn't work
and how it could be fixed? ;)

(and no, I'm not interested in trying to fix 2.4 VM right now
since I'll be going to OLS and last time it took only two weeks
for VM to be fucked up while I was away)

cheers,

Rik
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* Re: [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
  2000-07-16 19:33   ` Rik van Riel
@ 2000-07-17  7:10     ` Roger Larsson
  2000-07-17  7:46     ` Mike Galbraith
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Roger Larsson @ 2000-07-17  7:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rik van Riel; +Cc: Mike Galbraith, linux-kernel, linux-mm

Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Roger Larsson wrote:
> >
> > > Since I am responsible for messing up some aspects of vm
> > > (when fixing others)
> > > here is a patch that tries to solve the introduced problems.
> 
> > Unfortunately, this didn't improve anything here.
> 
> As was to be expected ...
> 
> Roger, I thought I explained you yesterday why stuff didn't work
> and how it could be fixed? ;)
> 
> (and no, I'm not interested in trying to fix 2.4 VM right now
> since I'll be going to OLS and last time it took only two weeks
> for VM to be fucked up while I was away)
> 

Yes, Now I remember...

We should alway start kswapd after when all zones are found
to be zone_wake_kswapd... (but it will then only run once... but
probably free more pages than we alloc)

Expect a new patch soon... I will do more performance testing this
time...

/RogerL

> cheers,
> 
> Rik
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* Re: [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
  2000-07-16 19:33   ` Rik van Riel
  2000-07-17  7:10     ` Roger Larsson
@ 2000-07-17  7:46     ` Mike Galbraith
  2000-07-17 14:44       ` Rik van Riel
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mike Galbraith @ 2000-07-17  7:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rik van Riel; +Cc: Roger Larsson, Linus Torvalds, linux-kernel, linux-mm

On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > Unfortunately, this didn't improve anything here.
> 
> As was to be expected ...

one can only hope and test.

> (and no, I'm not interested in trying to fix 2.4 VM right now
> since I'll be going to OLS and last time it took only two weeks
> for VM to be fucked up while I was away)

darn.

Do you already know what it's up to during one of these nasty stalls?
If not, and it would be helpful, I can take a mondo ktrace snapshot
of one and [struggle mode on] try to find out.

Anyone have wild and crazy ideas that want testing while Rik is away?

	-Mike

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* Re: [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
  2000-07-17  7:46     ` Mike Galbraith
@ 2000-07-17 14:44       ` Rik van Riel
  2000-07-17 19:01         ` Mike Galbraith
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rik van Riel @ 2000-07-17 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Galbraith; +Cc: Roger Larsson, Linus Torvalds, linux-kernel, linux-mm

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, this didn't improve anything here.
> > 
> > As was to be expected ...
> 
> one can only hope and test.

Alternatively, one can learn from the patches and
mistakes of others and try to understand how stuff
works.

> > (and no, I'm not interested in trying to fix 2.4 VM right now
> > since I'll be going to OLS and last time it took only two weeks
> > for VM to be fucked up while I was away)
> 
> darn.
> 
> Do you already know what it's up to during one of these nasty
> stalls?

There's nothing wrong with the current VM that wasn't
fixed in one of my patches the last 8 weeks.

(except for the fundamental design flaws, which I will
fix in the *next* N+1 weeks)

regards,

Rik
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* Re: [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
  2000-07-16  8:16 ` Mike Galbraith
  2000-07-16 19:33   ` Rik van Riel
@ 2000-07-17 17:21   ` Mark Hahn
  2000-07-17 20:22     ` Mike Galbraith
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mark Hahn @ 2000-07-17 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Galbraith; +Cc: linux-mm

> RFC concerning make -j30 bzImage as basic VM test:
> Rik called this an 'odd' workload.  IMHO it is an excellent basic VM test
> (IFF the size of the job is adjusted to _not quite_ fit in ram).  In my

and do you know whether "make -j30" just barely exceeds ram?

> time make -j30 bzImage on 128mb PIII/500 w. single ide drive.

hmm I presume the disk is some reasonable mode (udma), but this 
means that swapping will destructively interfere with any real IO.
I guess I don't see why this is a sane workload: it doesn't resemble
basic workstation load (which never has 30 runnable processes),
and it doesn't resemble "server" load (which might have 30, but would
certainly have more than a single disk.)


> 31  7  0  18132  18856    768  18728   4   0   207     0  193   240  89  11   0
> 30 10  0  18096   9680    792  19164 132   0   324     0  191   422  92   8   0
> 37  3  0  15556   6968    788  12092 424   0   325    19  165   353  88  12   0
> 27  3  1  18940  23724    640  12624 11008 8948  9705  3006 5284  7710  63  10  28

hmm, clearly going over 30 several times.  and in this case, the forkbomb
is causing the machine to thrash.  unsurprising eh?

peak was 41, I think.  I presume this is because make isn't counting 
the multiple processes that gcc -pipe forks.

regards, mark hahn.

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* Re: [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
  2000-07-17 14:44       ` Rik van Riel
@ 2000-07-17 19:01         ` Mike Galbraith
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mike Galbraith @ 2000-07-17 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rik van Riel; +Cc: Roger Larsson, Linus Torvalds, linux-kernel, linux-mm

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > > Unfortunately, this didn't improve anything here.
> > > 
> > > As was to be expected ...
> > 
> > one can only hope and test.
> 
> Alternatively, one can learn from the patches and
> mistakes of others and try to understand how stuff
> works.

I read them all from top to bottom, and listen at full volume.

> > Do you already know what it's up to during one of these nasty
> > stalls?
> 
> There's nothing wrong with the current VM that wasn't
> fixed in one of my patches the last 8 weeks.
>
> (except for the fundamental design flaws, which I will
> fix in the *next* N+1 weeks)

I look forward to trying out the result.

> regards,
> 
> Rik

	Cheers,

	-Mike

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* Re: [PATCH] test5-1 vm fix
  2000-07-17 17:21   ` Mark Hahn
@ 2000-07-17 20:22     ` Mike Galbraith
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mike Galbraith @ 2000-07-17 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Hahn; +Cc: linux-mm

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Mark Hahn wrote:

> > RFC concerning make -j30 bzImage as basic VM test:
> > Rik called this an 'odd' workload.  IMHO it is an excellent basic VM test
> > (IFF the size of the job is adjusted to _not quite_ fit in ram).  In my
> 
> and do you know whether "make -j30" just barely exceeds ram?

On my box, yes.  It peaks higher than I like, though only briefly.

> > time make -j30 bzImage on 128mb PIII/500 w. single ide drive.
> 
> hmm I presume the disk is some reasonable mode (udma), but this 
> means that swapping will destructively interfere with any real IO.

Yes to both.  Swap is always destructive to other io unless you use
dedicated controllers/drives for swap.

My poor io system is exactly why I don't push hard.  I flat don't
have much bandwidth, and never want to reach max throughput.  When
I test VM, I'm generally looking to see how _little_ disk io is used.
This workload doesn't saturate disk when vm is working well.

(solid disk lite means you're trying to do the impossible.. I don't)

> I guess I don't see why this is a sane workload: it doesn't resemble
> basic workstation load (which never has 30 runnable processes),
> and it doesn't resemble "server" load (which might have 30, but would
> certainly have more than a single disk.)

I do this because it is cpu intensive with many jobs competing for
memory services.  I see it only as 30 cpu/memory hungry mouths to
feed, with the added benefit of having some (.h) cachable data to
see how well VM decides when/what to keep/toss.  It's certainly
overloaded.. the only time swap ever gets any real exercise.  My
only choice in testing is to do it with data or tasks.  It's easier
to use many tasks than just a couple with massive data and ensure
that io saturation isn't reached.

Sane?  My box could be a classroom box with thirty students with
an assignment to compile a program.. a kernel is a program ;-)

> > 31  7  0  18132  18856    768  18728   4   0   207     0  193   240  89  11   0
> > 30 10  0  18096   9680    792  19164 132   0   324     0  191   422  92   8   0
> > 37  3  0  15556   6968    788  12092 424   0   325    19  165   353  88  12   0
> > 27  3  1  18940  23724    640  12624 11008 8948  9705  3006 5284  7710  63  10  28
> 
> hmm, clearly going over 30 several times.  and in this case, the forkbomb
> is causing the machine to thrash.  unsurprising eh?

It goes over thirty, but is not forkbombing the box.  Old make, you had
to be very very careful with.. new make throttles itself pretty well.

	Thanks for your comments.

	-Mike

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