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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>, qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com
Cc: Longlong Xia <xialonglong2025@163.com>,
	nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, xu.xin16@zte.com.cn,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Longlong Xia <xialonglong@kylinos.cn>,
	david@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/ksm: Add recovery mechanism for memory failures
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 20:57:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3954ac60-e818-42a0-b114-c2a09d34572b@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <077882e3-f69f-44f3-aa74-b325721beb42@linux.dev>

Cc Qiuxu

On 2025/10/11 17:38, Lance Yang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2025/10/11 17:23, Miaohe Lin wrote:
>> On 2025/10/11 15:52, Lance Yang wrote:
>>> @Miaohe
>>>
>>> I'd like to raise a concern about a potential hardware failure :)
>>
>> Thanks for your thought.
>>
>>>
>>> My tests show that if the shared zeropage (or huge zeropage) gets marked
>>> with HWpoison, the kernel continues to install it for new mappings.
>>> Surprisingly, it does not kill the accessing process ...
>>
>> Have you investigated the cause? If user space writes to shared zeropage,
>> it will trigger COW and a new page will be installed. After that, reading
>> the newly allocated page won't trigger memory error. In this scene, it 
>> does
>> not kill the accessing process.
> 
> Not write just read :)
> 
>>
>>>
>>> The concern is, once the page is no longer zero-filled due to the 
>>> hardware
>>> failure, what will happen? Would this lead to silent data corruption for
>>> applications that expect to read zeros?
>>
>> IMHO, once the page is no longer zero-filled due to the hardware 
>> failure, later
>> any read will trigger memory error and memory_failure should handle that.
> 
> I've only tested injecting an error on the shared zeropage using 
> corrupt-pfn:
> 
> echo $PFN > /sys/kernel/debug/hwpoison/corrupt-pfn
> 
> But no memory error was triggered on a subsequent read ...
> 
> Anyway, I'm trying to explore other ways to simulate hardware failure :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Lance
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-11 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-09  7:00 [PATCH RFC 0/1] " Longlong Xia
2025-10-09  7:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/1] " Longlong Xia
2025-10-09 12:13   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11  7:52     ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11  9:23       ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-11  9:38         ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11 12:57           ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-10-13  3:39           ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-13  4:42             ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13  9:15               ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13  9:25                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-13  9:46                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-13 11:00                   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13 11:13                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-13 11:18                       ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11  3:25   ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-13 20:10   ` [PATCH RFC] " Markus Elfring
2025-10-09 18:57 ` [PATCH RFC 0/1] " David Hildenbrand

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