From: Hans Reiser <hans@reiser.to>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: "Quintela Carreira Juan J." <quintela@fi.udc.es>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>, bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org,
Alexander Zarochentcev <zam@odintsovo.comcor.ru>
Subject: Re: journaling & VM
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:20:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <393ECAA7.AD0DC0D6@reiser.to> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20000607223352.J30951@redhat.com>
"Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:29:25PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
> >
> > If I understand Juan correctly, they fixed this issue. Aging 1/64th of the
> > cache for every cache evenly at every round of trying to free pages should be an
> > excellent fix. It should do just fine at the task of handling a system with
> > both ext3 and reiserfs running.
>
> That is _exactly_ what breaks the VM balance! The net result of
> an algorithm like that is that all caches are shrunk at the same
> rate regardless of which ones are busy. The "shrink everything
> at once" principle is what used to cause large filesystem scans
> (such as find|grep over a large source tree) to swap all our
> running processes out.
>
> There _has_ to be a way to allow the relative ages of the different
> pages to influence the reclamation of pages from different sources.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephen
I am confused, if a page is accessed the aging is undone. Aging 1/64th is not
the same as flushing 1/64th. If cache A is not used the aging process gradually
shrinks it to nothing because its pages aren't unaged, if cache B is heavily
used the aging process doesn't age fast enough to overcome the unaging and new
pages get added and it grows. I am missing something....
Hans
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[not found] ` <393CBBB8.554A0D2A@reiser.to>
[not found] ` <20000606172606.I25794@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <393D37D1.1BC61DC3@reiser.to>
[not found] ` <20000606205447.T23701@redhat.com>
2000-06-06 23:06 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not just the code) Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 1:19 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 1:46 ` Quintela Carreira Juan J.
2000-06-07 3:45 ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 11:15 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 13:23 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 13:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 14:27 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 14:46 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 14:51 ` bert hubert
2000-06-07 15:20 ` Quintela Carreira Juan J.
2000-06-07 15:35 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 15:41 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 15:44 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 17:10 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-06-07 17:14 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:21 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-06-07 20:16 ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 21:20 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 21:52 ` journaling & VM Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 22:11 ` James Sutherland
2000-06-07 22:29 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-08 1:11 ` Neil Schemenauer
2000-06-08 1:29 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 20:16 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code) Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 20:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 21:29 ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 21:31 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 21:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 22:20 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2000-06-07 21:50 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 19:02 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel:it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 13:40 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Chris Mason
2000-06-07 13:47 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 11:12 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 16:35 ` journaling & VM John Fremlin
2000-06-07 17:11 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
[not found] ` <20000608114435.A15433@uni-koblenz.de>
2000-06-08 21:29 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-09 11:53 ` Ralf Baechle
2000-06-07 17:48 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code) Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 18:01 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 19:58 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 20:56 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 21:14 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 21:24 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 21:40 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 21:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 22:00 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 22:22 ` Manfred Spraul
2000-06-09 15:08 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-09 16:52 ` Manfred Spraul
2000-06-09 17:23 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-09 18:26 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel:it'snot " Manfred Spraul
2000-06-07 22:28 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 10:10 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not " Stephen C. Tweedie
[not found] ` <393DACC8.5DB60A81@reiser.to>
2000-06-07 11:00 ` reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not just the code Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:11 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 17:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:46 ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 19:53 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
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