Re:[RFC] pre cleaning (a more lucid description)

Re:[RFC] pre cleaning (a more lucid description)

[BenHanokh Gabriel]

hi

what will be done if you pre-clean a page Pi and it was later dirty
again ?
can you pre-clean it again, or that the the forward scan is done for N
pages
where N >(C - Q) so you will just skip over Pi ?

one more thing the self tuning is done on a global base(is it so ?)
can the tune be done with samller granularity like process/inode-pages
i.e. if too many times inode-pages were changed after cleaning maybe we
should avoid for some time pre-cleaning this inode-pages assuming self
similarity
we can use a per inode/process counter to tell how many times its pages
were pre-cleaned for vain, and if it reaches a rashhold we will stop
pre-cleaning its pages for some time.

regards
/gabriel

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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sometimes I hate email.  The previous message on precleaning was NOT intended
> to be sent...  Here is a better description.  I have subscribed to linux-mm so
> I will see any comments.  BTW this is for 2.5 land.
> 
> This is an idea to help the mm subsystem.  It uses a some IO bandwidth to speed up
> gathering free pages.  Simpily stated, the idea is: during the scan for free pages,
> once we have found our quota, we should look ahead and write out dirty pages.  The
> next scan, if we have done things correctly, should have very few dirty pages to
> write.  It should be possible to make this process self tuning.
> 
> I assumed we are directly scanning the mm array
> 
> lets define a few items
> 
> Q a pointer or index to the place we stopped looking for free pages.
> C a pointer or index to the place we stopped looking for pages to pre clean, note we always
>   restart the pre clean process at Q.
> D a count of dirty pages, in the pre cleaned area (Q < C),  we had to write gather our
>   quota of free pages.
> P a count of dirty pages we pre cleaned since the last time we freed pages.
> S a count of the number of pages we scaned to get our quota of free pages.
> 
> If things are working correctly D should be much less than P.  This ratio
> can be used to determine if we are helping.  We should try to pre clean at
> least S pages.  The scan/preclean task needs to adjust its priority during
> this process.  It needs to be very high during the freeing cycle and low
> during the preclean cycle.  If the preclean process is unable to scan S
> pages, we can use this as indication that we are short of resources.
> 
> A couple of comments.  We do not have to write all dirty pages, just those
> that the next scan will select as free.  It may be possible to cluster the
> writes.
> 
> The net effect of this should be that we do our page outs when they will
> not effect processes.  When we need free pages getting them should
> be faster and usually will not require (much) IO.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@cam.org>
> http://www.cam.org/~tomlins/njpipes.html
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