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From: Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan <ananth@sgi.com>
To: "Quintela Carreira Juan J." <quintela@vexeta.dc.fi.udc.es>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Benjamin Redelings I <bredelin@ucla.edu>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [DATAPOINT] pre7-6 will not swap
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 19:28:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <391777D4.86460218@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ytt66sov6a9.fsf@vexeta.dc.fi.udc.es>

"Quintela Carreira Juan J." wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "linus" == Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:
> 
> linus> in vmscan.c, and that seems to be quite well-behaved too (but if somebody
> linus> has the energy to test the two different versions, I'd absolutely love to
> linus> hear results..)
> 
> Hi Linus,
>    I have tested two versions of the patch (against vanilla
> pre7-6), the first was to remove the test altogether (I think this is
> from Rajagopal):
> 
> --- pre7-6/mm/vmscan.c  Fri May  5 23:58:56 2000
> +++ testing/mm/vmscan.c Mon May  8 23:30:52 2000
> @@ -114,8 +114,9 @@
>          * Don't do any of the expensive stuff if
>          * we're not really interested in this zone.
>          */
> -       if (!page->zone->zone_wake_kswapd)
> +/*     if (!page->zone->zone_wake_kswapd)
>                 goto out_unlock;
> +*/
> 

I'm having the same experience too. The one thing
that makes stuff better is not to look at the zone at all
in try_to_swap_out (as Juan points out above).

I'm trying to also see if we can do better in shrink_mmap().
Although my gprof statistics say that we can end-up spending
91% of the time skipping pages, I'm not able to comeup with
anything simple to make shrink_mmap behave better ... except
one change which makes swapping a lot less and shrink_mmap
a lot more agressive: don't skip pages based on zone's
high water mark if we are trying hard to free pages (my heuristic
was to stop skipping pages if priority in shrink_mmap was 3; YMMV).
I'm not entirely convinced that this is the right thing to do.

In all, I do think that try_to_swap_out shouldn't skip pages
based on zones. We have now evidence from 3 different "workloads"
in this direction --- my own dbench test, Juan's test above &
Benjamin's "gaming" workload.


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  reply	other threads:[~2000-05-09  2:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <8evk0f$7jote$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>
2000-05-06 17:12 ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-06  4:25   ` Benjamin Redelings I
2000-05-06 19:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-06  5:35     ` Benjamin Redelings I
2000-05-06 21:46       ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-06 22:24         ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-06 14:03           ` Benjamin Redelings I
2000-05-07  0:22           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-07  2:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-07 17:40             ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-07 17:53               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-07 19:13                 ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-07 19:30                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-08 20:40                     ` gprof data for pre7-6 Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-09  1:52     ` [DATAPOINT] pre7-6 will not swap Quintela Carreira Juan J.
2000-05-09  2:28       ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan [this message]
2000-05-09  2:33       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-09  3:31         ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-09 15:56           ` [DATAPOINT] pre7-8 swaps with FREE mem? Benjamin Redelings I
2000-05-06 20:12   ` PG_referenced and lru_cache (cpu%) Roger Larsson
2000-05-06 18:31     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-06 22:16       ` Roger Larsson
2000-05-05  8:07 [DATAPOINT] pre7-6 will not swap Benjamin Redelings I

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