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From: Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan <ananth@sgi.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: riel@nl.linux.org, Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Oops in __free_pages_ok (pre7-1) (Long) (backtrace)
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 14:16:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3911E8CB.AD90A518@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005041202310.811-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 4 May 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > > Note that changing how hard try_to_free_pages() tries to free a page is
> > > exactly part of what Rik has been doing, so this is something that has
> > > changed recently. It's not trivial to get right, for a very simple reason:
> > > we need to balance the "hardness" between the VM area scanning and the RLU
> > > list scanning.
> >
> > With the current scheme, it's pretty much impossible to get it
> > right.
> 
> Not really. That is what the "priority levels" are really there for: for

	[ ... discussion about shrink_mmap() ... ]

> This, I think, is where the new swap_out() falls down flat on its face. It
	
	[ ... discussion about swap_out() ... ]

I looked over the latest (7-4) implementation of swap_out,
shrink_mmap & try_to_free_pages, etc.

One clarification: In the case I reported only
dbench was running, presumably doing a lot of read/write. So, why
isn't shrink_mmap able to find freeable pages? Is it because
the shrink_mmap() is too conservative about implementing LRU?
I mean, it doesn't make sense to swap pages just to keep others
in cache ... if the demand is too high, start shooting down
pages regardless.

Or, is shrink_mmap bailing not because of referenced bit,
but because bdflush is too slow, for example? That is,
are the pages having active I/O so can't be freed?

Do you guys think a profile using gcc-style mcount
would be useful?


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  reply	other threads:[~2000-05-04 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <8ener4$6djpb$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>
2000-05-03  3:11 ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-03  3:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-03  5:26     ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-05-03  6:22       ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-03 16:11         ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-05-03 16:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-03 16:35             ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-05-03 17:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-03 17:31                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-05-03 18:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-03 18:37                     ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-03 18:37                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-05-03 19:41                       ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-03 21:28                     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-05-03  8:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-03  8:31         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-03 16:08           ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-05-03 16:14             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-03 16:24               ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-05-04  1:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-04  2:44               ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-04  4:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-04  3:16               ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-04  4:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-05  4:46                   ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-04  7:42               ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-04 15:33                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-04 15:57                   ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-04 17:19                   ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-04 17:41                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-04 18:18                       ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-04 18:43                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-04 19:00                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-04 19:17                             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-04 21:16                               ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan [this message]
2000-05-04 21:51                                 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-04 22:21                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-05  0:47                                   ` 7-4 VM killing (A solution) Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-05  1:30                                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-05  1:47                                       ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-05  5:13                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-05  6:44                                       ` Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-05  6:51                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-05 10:23                                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-04 20:40                   ` Oops in __free_pages_ok (pre7-1) (Long) (backtrace) Roger Larsson

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