linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Tang Chen <imtangchen@gmail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	"Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
	Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"mina86@mina86.com" <mina86@mina86.com>,
	"gong.chen@linux.intel.com" <gong.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	"lwoodman@redhat.com" <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"jweiner@redhat.com" <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com" <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE.
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:08:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F31CBD145@ORSMSX106.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE9FiQUZO-j3UyhED6AOgkS8JzqUWcwsen62OdUucuNCS51ScQ@mail.gmail.com>

> That is what my patchset want to do.
> put page tables on the same node like node data.
> with that, hotplug and normal case will be the same code path.

Page tables are a big issue if we have 4K mappings (8 byte entry per
4K page means 2MB of page tables per GB of memory) ... but only
used for DEBUG cases, right?

If we use 2M mappings, then allocations are 512x smaller - so only
4K per GB - hard to justify spreading that across nodes.

If we can use 1GB mappings - then another 512x reduction to 8 bytes per GB (or 8KB per TB)

Aren't page structures a bigger issue?  ~64 bytes per 4K page.  Do we
make sure these get allocated from the NUMA node that they describe?
This should not hurt the ZONE_MOVEABLE-ness of this - although they are
kernel structures they can be freed when the node is removed (at that point
they describe memory that is no longer present). From a scalability perspective
we don't want to run node0 low on memory by using it for every other node.
>From a NUMA perspective we want the page_t that describes a page to be
in the same locality as the page itself.

-Tony

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-15 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08 10:16 Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 1/7] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2013-08-12 14:39   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:12     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 2/7] x86, numa, mem_hotplug: Skip all the regions the kernel resides in Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 3/7] memblock, numa: Introduce flag into memblock Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 4/7] memblock, mem_hotplug: Introduce MEMBLOCK_HOTPLUG flag to mark hotpluggable regions Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 5/7] memblock, mem_hotplug: Make memblock skip hotpluggable regions by default Tang Chen
2013-08-14 21:54   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-08-15  5:15     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 6/7] mem-hotplug: Introduce movablenode boot option to {en|dis}able using SRAT Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 7/7] x86, numa, acpi, memory-hotplug: Make movablenode have higher priority Tang Chen
2013-08-09 16:32 ` [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tejun Heo
2013-08-12  6:33   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12  8:54   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:14   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 15:23     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:29       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:46         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 18:23           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 20:20             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:49               ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 20:54                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:57                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:06                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:08                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:12                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:14                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:11                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:11                   ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 21:25                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:28                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13  5:14                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13  6:14           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13  9:56             ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13 14:38               ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-13 22:33               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-14  1:22                 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 19:06                   ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 20:28                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16  2:08                       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-16  4:21                         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-19  3:07                           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-19  3:28                             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15  8:42                 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:19                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:44                     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:49                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:52                         ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 14:37                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:45                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 15:05                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 15:10                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 19:49                               ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 19:08                             ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2013-08-15 19:34                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:35                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16  1:16                     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:41   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:46     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:19       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:22         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 17:01           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 17:23             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 18:22               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-12 18:07             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 18:15               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 18:23                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 19:40                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 19:55                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 20:29                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 20:30                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 20:35                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 21:17                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 21:36                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:08                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  1:21                                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:33                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:44                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  2:22                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:38                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  1:51                                     ` Tejun Heo

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F31CBD145@ORSMSX106.amr.corp.intel.com \
    --to=tony.luck@intel.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=gong.chen@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=imtangchen@gmail.com \
    --cc=isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=jiang.liu@huawei.com \
    --cc=jweiner@redhat.com \
    --cc=laijs@cn.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=lenb@kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=lv.zheng@intel.com \
    --cc=lwoodman@redhat.com \
    --cc=mgorman@suse.de \
    --cc=mina86@mina86.com \
    --cc=minchan@kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=prarit@redhat.com \
    --cc=riel@redhat.com \
    --cc=rjw@sisk.pl \
    --cc=robert.moore@intel.com \
    --cc=tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=trenn@suse.de \
    --cc=vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com \
    --cc=wency@cn.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=yinghai@kernel.org \
    --cc=zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox