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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v2] mm/hugetlb_vmemmap: fix race with speculative PFN walkers
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:35:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38D49672-674B-43F8-AFD3-73BFD8876DCE@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOUHufb4O7oCsGcH5VcSoAw5cUiwYjGCfvLBHPZgo-G=HtiLVw@mail.gmail.com>



> On Jun 28, 2024, at 07:04, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:47 PM Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:27:05 -0600 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> While investigating HVO for THPs [1], it turns out that speculative
>>> PFN walkers like compaction can race with vmemmap modifications, e.g.,
>>> 
>>>  CPU 1 (vmemmap modifier)         CPU 2 (speculative PFN walker)
>>>  -------------------------------  ------------------------------
>>>  Allocates an LRU folio page1
>>>                                   Sees page1
>>>  Frees page1
>>> 
>>>  Allocates a hugeTLB folio page2
>>>  (page1 being a tail of page2)
>>> 
>>>  Updates vmemmap mapping page1
>>>                                   get_page_unless_zero(page1)
>>> 
>>> Even though page1->_refcount is zero after HVO, get_page_unless_zero()
>>> can still try to modify this read-only field, resulting in a crash.
>> 
>> Ah.  So we should backport this into earlier kernels, yes?
>> 
>> Are we able to identify a Fixes: for this?  Looks difficult.
>> 
>> This seems quite hard to trigger.  Do any particular userspace actions
>> invoke the race?
> 
> Yes, *very* hard to trigger:
> 1. Most hugeTLB use cases I know of are static, i.e., reserved at boot
> time, because allocating at runtime is not reliable at all.
> 2. On top of that, someone has to be very unlucky to get tripped over
> above, because the race window is so small -- I wasn't able to trigger
> it with a stress testing that does nothing but that (with THPs
> though).
> 
> So I don't think it's worth cc'ing stable, unless Muchun recommends.

I agree with Yu.

Thanks.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-28  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-27 22:27 Yu Zhao
2024-06-27 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <CAOUHufb4O7oCsGcH5VcSoAw5cUiwYjGCfvLBHPZgo-G=HtiLVw@mail.gmail.com>
2024-06-28  2:35     ` Muchun Song [this message]
2024-07-02 13:24 ` David Hildenbrand

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