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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: James Simmons <jsimmons@edgeglobal.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: MMIO regions
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:26:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38021DE1.816F44A2@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14338.6581.988257.647691@dukat.scot.redhat.com>

"Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote:
> You seem to be looking for a solution which doesn't exist, though. :)

He's working on it though :)  http://imperial.edgeglobal.com/~jsimmons


> It is an unfortunate, but true, fact that the broken video hardware
> doesn't let you provide memory mapped access which is (a) fast, (b)
> totally safe, and (c) functional.  Choose which of a, b and c you are
> willing to sacrifice and then we can look for solutions.  DRI sacrifices
> (b), for example, by making the locking cooperative rather than
> compulsory.  The basic unaccelerated fbcon sacrifices (c).  Using VM
> protection would sacrifice (a).  It's not the ideal choice, sadly.

Seems like it would make sense for an fbcon driver to specify the level
of safety (and thus the level of speed penalty).

For the older cards, "slow and safe" shouldn't be a big problem, because
the typical scenario involves a single fbdev application using the
entire screen.  The fbcon/GGI driver would specify a NEED_SLOW_SYNC flag
when it registers.

For newer cards, they get progressively better at having internal
consistency for reads/writes of various MMIO regions and DMAable
operations.   The fbcon/GGI driver for this could specify the FAST flag
because the card can handle concurrent operations.

Regards,

	Jeff




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  reply	other threads:[~1999-10-11 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-10-04 14:38 James Simmons
1999-10-04 15:31 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-04 15:52   ` James Simmons
1999-10-04 16:02     ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
1999-10-04 17:27       ` James Simmons
1999-10-04 17:56         ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
1999-10-04 18:26           ` James Simmons
1999-10-04 19:19         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-06 20:15           ` James Simmons
1999-10-11 17:09             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 17:26               ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
1999-10-11 23:14                 ` James Simmons
1999-10-11 17:57               ` James Simmons
1999-10-04 16:11     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-04 18:29       ` James Simmons
1999-10-04 19:35         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-07 19:40           ` James Simmons
1999-10-10 11:24             ` Rik Faith
1999-10-10 14:03               ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-10-10 18:46                 ` Rik Faith
1999-10-11  0:21                   ` James Simmons
1999-10-11 10:59                     ` Rik Faith
1999-10-11  3:38                   ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-10-10 14:21               ` James Simmons
1999-10-11 17:22             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-04 16:58 ` Marcus Sundberg
1999-10-04 18:27   ` James Simmons

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