From: Manfred Spraul <manfreds@colorfullife.com>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@chiara.csoma.elte.hu>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: locking question: do_mmap(), do_munmap()
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:45:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3800C2BF.716C9D65@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910101219370.16317-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
Alexander Viro wrote:
>
> On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Alexander Viro wrote:
>
> >
> > [Cc'd to mingo]
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> >
> > > I've started adding "assert_down()" and "assert_kernellocked()" macros,
> > > and now I don't see the login prompt any more...
> > >
> > > eg. sys_mprotect calls merge_segments without lock_kernel().
> >
> > Manfred, Andrea - please stop it. Yes, it does and yes, it should.
Yes, it should cause oops?
> > Plonking the big lock around every access to VM is _not_ a solution
I never did that, I'll never do that, I only notice that the current
code is filled with races.
> >. If
> > swapper doesn't use mmap_sem - _swapper_ should be fixed. How the hell
> > does lock_kernel() have smaller deadlock potential than
> > down(&mm->mmap_sem)?
lock_kernel() is dropped on thread switch, the semaphore is not dropped.
>
> OK, folks. Code in swapper (unuse_process(), right?) is called only from
> sys_swapoff(). It's a syscall. Andrea, could you show a scenario for
> deadlock here? OK, some process (but not the process doing swapoff()) may
> have the map locked So? it is not going to release the thing - we are
> seriously screwed anyway (read: we already are in deadlock). We don't hold
> the semaphore ourselves.
AFAIK the problem is OOM:
* a process accesses a not-present, ie page fault:
...
handle_mm_fault(): this process own mm->mmap_sem.
->handle_pte_fault().
-> (eg.) do_wp_page().
-> get_free_page().
now get_free_page() notices that there is no free memory.
--> wakeup kswapd.
* the swapper runs, and it tries to swap out data from that process.
mm->mmap_sem is already acquired --> lock-up.
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Manfred
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910101713010.364-100000@alpha.random>
1999-10-10 15:52 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 16:07 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 16:25 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 16:45 ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
1999-10-10 17:25 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 17:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 17:48 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 18:42 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 19:03 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 21:31 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 21:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 22:34 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 23:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-11 15:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 16:05 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-11 18:02 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 19:07 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-11 22:23 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-13 1:25 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-13 7:32 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-15 9:58 ` Ralf Baechle
1999-10-15 17:50 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-13 10:45 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 20:15 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 21:14 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 21:37 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-11 22:13 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 22:22 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 23:01 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-12 14:06 ` [more fun] " Alexander Viro
1999-10-13 7:35 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-13 18:34 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-13 10:16 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 20:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 21:40 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-11 22:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 22:31 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-13 10:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:47 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-10 16:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-11 15:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:52 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-09 12:48 Manfred Spraul
1999-10-09 13:12 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-09 13:17 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-09 13:38 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-09 16:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 13:05 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 15:09 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:05 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
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