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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Stat-Signature: zwczdw7ndm7rmbbfhh54hwttzcqi6eoy X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A44A51C0019 X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam07 X-HE-Tag: 1751635360-907426 X-HE-Meta: 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 SZYPweu/ x6CfdJDExThl15rDPq8u/q6nYgJ48f8lC0TVTQxaCC9aDRhtdEPKNzBt0u6UVk1a2hB2hj0aHZO7I+u96m6OpNpkkAYGeqjAtrNIUFDVeaqg2amue5NNEIAlN4E2sUO8SSNFq X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 25.06.25 11:03, David Hildenbrand wrote: > On 24.06.25 03:16, Alistair Popple wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 05:43:38PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>> Let's convert to vmf_insert_folio_pmd(). >>> >>> In the unlikely case there is already something mapped, we'll now still >>> call trace_dax_pmd_load_hole() and return VM_FAULT_NOPAGE. >>> >>> That should probably be fine, no need to add special cases for that. >> >> I'm not sure about that. Consider dax_iomap_pmd_fault() -> dax_fault_iter() -> >> dax_pmd_load_hole(). It calls split_huge_pmd() in response to VM_FAULT_FALLBACK >> which will no longer happen, what makes that ok? > > My reasoning was that this is the exact same behavior other > vmf_insert_folio_pmd() users here would result in. > > But let me dig into the details. Okay, trying to figure out what to do here. Assume dax_pmd_load_hole() is called and there is already something. We would have returned VM_FAULT_FALLBACK, now we would return VM_FAULT_NO_PAGE. That obviously only happens when we have not a write fault (otherwise, the shared zeropage does not apply). In dax_iomap_pmd_fault(), we would indeed split_huge_pmd(). In the DAX case (!anon vma), that would simply zap whatever is already mapped there. I guess we would then return VM_FAULT_FALLBACK from huge_fault-> ... -> dax_iomap_fault() and core MM code would fallback to handle_pte_fault() etc. and ... load a single PTE mapping the shared zeropage. BUT why is this case handled differently than everything else? E.g., (1) when we try inserting the shared zeropage through dax_load_hole()->vmf_insert_page_mkwrite() and there is already something ... we return VM_FAULT_NOPAGE. (2) when we try inserting a PTE mapping an ordinary folio through dax_fault_iter()->vmf_insert_page_mkwrite() and there is already something ... we return VM_FAULT_NOPAGE. (3) when we try inserting a PMD mapping an ordinary folio through dax_fault_iter()->vmf_insert_folio_pmd() and there is already something ... we return VM_FAULT_NOPAGE. So that makes me think ... the VM_FAULT_FALLBACK right now is probably ... wrong? And probably cannot be triggered? If there is already the huge zerofolio mapped, all good. Anything else is really not expected I would assume? -- Cheers, David / dhildenb