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From: Zi Yan <zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, riel@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	minchan@kernel.org, vbabka@suse.cz, n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com,
	khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/14] mm: use pmd lock instead of racy checks in zap_pmd_range()
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:12:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <366917AD-792F-40E7-BC20-978A13EABB73@cs.rutgers.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmueqf59.fsf@skywalker.in.ibm.com>

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On 7 Feb 2017, at 7:55, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:

> "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> writes:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 11:12:41AM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
>>> From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
>>>
>>> Originally, zap_pmd_range() checks pmd value without taking pmd lock.
>>> This can cause pmd_protnone entry not being freed.
>>>
>>> Because there are two steps in changing a pmd entry to a pmd_protnone
>>> entry. First, the pmd entry is cleared to a pmd_none entry, then,
>>> the pmd_none entry is changed into a pmd_protnone entry.
>>> The racy check, even with barrier, might only see the pmd_none entry
>>> in zap_pmd_range(), thus, the mapping is neither split nor zapped.
>>
>> That's definately a good catch.
>>
>> But I don't agree with the solution. Taking pmd lock on each
>> zap_pmd_range() is a significant hit by scalability of the code path.
>> Yes, split ptl lock helps, but it would be nice to avoid the lock in first
>> place.
>>
>> Can we fix change_huge_pmd() instead? Is there a reason why we cannot
>> setup the pmd_protnone() atomically?
>>
>> Mel? Rik?
>>
>
> I am also trying to fixup the usage of set_pte_at on ptes that are
> valid/present (that this autonuma ptes). I guess what we are missing is a
> variant of pte update routines that can atomically update a pte without
> clearing it and that also doesn't do a tlb flush ?

I think so. The key point is to have a atomic PTE update function instead
of current two-step pte/pmd_get_clear() then set_pte/pmd_at(). We can always
add a wrapper to include TLB flush, once we have this atomic update function.

I used xchg() to replace xxx_get_clear() & set_xxx_at() in pmd_protnone(),
set_pmd_migration_entry(), and remove_pmd_migration(),
then ran my test overnight. I did not see kernel crashing nor data corruption.
So I think the atomic PTE/PMD update function works without taking locks
in zap_pmd_range().

Aneesh, in your patch of fixing PowerPC's autonuma pte problem, why didn't you
use atomic operations? Is there any limitation on PowerPC?

My question is why current kernel uses xxx_get_clear() and set_xxx_at()
in the first place? Is there any limitation I do not know?


Thanks.

--
Best Regards
Yan Zi

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-07 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-05 16:12 [PATCH v3 00/14] mm: page migration enhancement for thp Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] mm: thp: make __split_huge_pmd_locked visible Zi Yan
2017-02-06  6:12   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-06 12:10     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-06 15:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-06 15:03     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] mm: thp: create new __zap_huge_pmd_locked function Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] mm: use pmd lock instead of racy checks in zap_pmd_range() Zi Yan
2017-02-06  4:02   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-06  4:14     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-06  7:43   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-06 13:02     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-06 23:22       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-06 16:07   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-06 16:32     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-06 17:35       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-07 13:55     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-02-07 14:12       ` Zi Yan [this message]
2017-02-07 14:19   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-07 15:11     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-07 16:37       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-07 17:14         ` Zi Yan
2017-02-07 17:45           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-13  0:25             ` Zi Yan
2017-02-13 10:59               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-13 14:40                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] mm: x86: move _PAGE_SWP_SOFT_DIRTY from bit 7 to bit 1 Zi Yan
2017-02-09  9:14   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-09 15:07     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] mm: mempolicy: add queue_pages_node_check() Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] mm: thp: introduce separate TTU flag for thp freezing Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] mm: thp: introduce CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] mm: thp: enable thp migration in generic path Zi Yan
2017-02-09  9:15   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-09 15:17     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-09 23:04       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-14 20:13   ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] mm: thp: check pmd migration entry in common path Zi Yan
2017-02-09  9:16   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-09 17:36     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] mm: soft-dirty: keep soft-dirty bits over thp migration Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] mm: hwpoison: soft offline supports " Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] mm: mempolicy: mbind and migrate_pages support " Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] mm: migrate: move_pages() supports " Zi Yan
2017-02-09  9:16   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-09 17:37     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] mm: memory_hotplug: memory hotremove " Zi Yan
2017-02-23 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] mm: page migration enhancement for thp Zi Yan

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