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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: propagate VM_SOFTDIRTY on merge
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 15:35:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3663ba10-a16f-4520-810c-701fe2d18167@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <069adbf6-181f-420f-b2b1-0ca22894d904@kernel.org>

On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 03:25:05PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 14.11.25 18:53, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > Currently we set VM_SOFTDIRTY when a new mapping is set up (whether by
> > establishing a new VMA, or via merge) as implemented in __mmap_complete()
> > and do_brk_flags().
> >
> > However, when performing a merge of existing mappings such as when
> > performing mprotect(), we may lose the VM_SOFTDIRTY flag.
> >
> > This is because currently we simply ignore VM_SOFTDIRTY for the purposes of
> > merge, so one VMA may possess the flag and another not, and whichever
> > happens to be the target VMA will be the one upon which the merge is
> > performed which may or may not have VM_SOFTDIRTY set.
> >
> > Now we have the concept of 'sticky' VMA flags, let's make VM_SOFTDIRTY one
> > which solves this issue.
> >
> > Additionally update VMA userland tests to propagate changes.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> > ---
>
> Looks reasonable to me. I thought that we had that behavior in the past ...
> but I also remember scenarios where we would have imprecise soft-dirty
> handling. So I assume this was semi-broken for a while (soft-broken :) )

:))

Yeah it's only specific merge scenarios, and only when you e.g. already cleared
refs then mapped a new VMA and it happened to merge.

Nicer thing about this change is we stop treating VM_SOFTDIRTY like an exception
on merge :)

>
> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) <david@kernel.org>

Cheers!

>
> --
> Cheers
>
> David


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-17 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 17:53 [PATCH 0/2] make VM_SOFTDIRTY a sticky VMA flag Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: propagate VM_SOFTDIRTY on merge Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17  4:39   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-17 11:34     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 14:25   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 15:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-11-17 15:47   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-11-17 15:53     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 16:05   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] testing/selftests/mm: add soft-dirty merge self-test Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 14:44   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 15:15     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-14 21:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] make VM_SOFTDIRTY a sticky VMA flag Andrew Morton
2025-11-17 11:41   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17  0:53 ` Andrei Vagin
2025-11-17  4:37   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-17 11:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 18:26     ` Andrei Vagin
2025-11-17 19:57       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-19 13:09         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-19 17:21           ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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