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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Tal Zussman <tz2294@columbia.edu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/debug: Use BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID() for VIRTUAL_BUG_ON()
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 20:13:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <366227be-e22d-4757-b3c7-3eedc07df1b2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKha_soMjczpY3HTpPVuw-fKTq0ZATdCnaPKPrsnTj_5ROepmA@mail.gmail.com>

On 07.06.25 18:21, Tal Zussman wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 3:59 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 07.06.25 09:09, Tal Zussman wrote:
>>> This allows the compiler to validate the condition even with
>>> CONFIG_DEBUG_VIRTUAL disabled, and aligns VIRTUAL_BUG_ON() with the
>>> other macros in mmdebug.h.
>>>
>>
>> In the light of recent discussions, I think we should get rid of
>> VIRTUAL_BUG_ON completely.
>>
>> There are only a hand full of callers, and I am preety sure for most of
>> them VM_WARN_ON is a suitable replacement.
> 
> Makes sense. However, all of the callers (except for vmalloc) are already
> gated by CONFIG_DEBUG_VIRTUAL, which doesn't depend on CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, so
> using VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() would break DEBUG_VIRTUAL on its own.

It should either be folded or made dependent on DEBUG_VM

> 
> Perhaps it makes sense to convert the non-vmalloc callers to WARN_ON_ONCE()
> instead so DEBUG_VIRTUAL still works.
 > The vmalloc caller would then become>
>          if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_DEBUG_VIRTUAL))
>                  WARN_ON_ONCE(...);
> 
> as opposed to VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(), in order to maintain the existing
> DEBUG_VIRTUAL behavior.

 From a quick glimpse, I am not even sure Fedora/RHEL enable it in the 
debug config (and if so, probably it's not enabled by mistake)

I think we can make it depend on DEBUG_VM.

> 
> Alternatively, DEBUG_VIRTUAL could be folded into DEBUG_VM, but that seems
> like a slightly more invasive change...

I'd start with making it depend on DEBUG_VM.

If there is good reason to not fold it, then all VIRTUAL_BUG_ON should 
be renamed to VIRTUAL_WARN_ON and get defined as VM_WARN_ON.

If there is good reason to fold it, then all VIRTUAL_BUG_ON should be 
replaced by VM_WARN_ON.

The only question is what the performance overhead is. I mean, 
performance with DEBUG_VM is already bad (debug kernels), so not sure if 
we really care that much.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



      reply	other threads:[~2025-06-07 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-07  7:09 Tal Zussman
2025-06-07  7:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-07 16:21   ` Tal Zussman
2025-06-07 18:13     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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