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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Hyesoo Yu <hyesoo.yu@samsung.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: janghyuck.kim@samsung.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: slub: Panic if the object corruption is checked.
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 11:27:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3661f67f-8c52-4e7b-80b6-9b3cc63b41bd@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250121003959.GA610565@tiffany>

On 1/21/25 1:40 AM, Hyesoo Yu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 03:36:08PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 05:28:21PM +0900, Hyesoo Yu wrote:
>>> If a slab object is corrupted or an error occurs in its internal
>>> value, continuing after restoration may cause other side effects.
>>> At this point, it is difficult to debug because the problem occurred
>>> in the past. A flag has been added that can cause a panic when there
>>> is a problem with the object.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Hyesoo Yu <hyesoo.yu@samsung.com>
>>> Change-Id: I4e7e5e0ec3421a7f6c84d591db052f79d3775493
>>
>> Linux does not use Change IDs.  Please omit these from future patches.
>>
>> Panicing is a very unfriendly approach.  I think a better approach would
>> be to freeze the slab where corruption is detected.  That is, no future
>> objects are allocated from that slab, and attempts to free objects from
>> that slab become no-ops.  I don't think that should be hard to implement.

Freezing of slab is already done in some cases when corruption is
detected - all objects are marked as used, and further freeing attempts
on the slab are discarded. Perhaps not all cases, which could be improved.

> Thanks you for your responce. That is my mistake. I will remove the change ID.
> 
> I agree that freezing is better than recovery or panic for the system's stability.
> However what I want from the patch is not just to make the system run stably.
> I need to immediately trigger a panic to investigate the slub.

IMHO it's a valid goal to panic more quickly when debugging, and
enabling slub_debug means debugging is in progress (as opposed to normal
production when we try to avoid panic).
But making it possible to reuse the general panic_on_warn mechanism
(which can be also expected to be enabled when debugging) is indeed
preferable to introducing a new slab-specific flag.

> I would like to analyze the corrupted data at that moment to check issues
> like cache problem, user errors, system clock frequency and similar problems,
> not just passing by without any issues.
> 
> However I agree that panic is not a friendly approach.
> I will modify it to notify the problem using warn() and then use
> panic_on_warn to trigger panic.
> 
> Thanks,
> Regards.
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20250120083041epcas2p30d61ee801c1db5a7ebdf26fdc642883f@epcas2p3.samsung.com>
2025-01-20  8:28 ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-01-20 15:36   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-21  0:40     ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-01-21 10:27       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-01-20 15:41   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2025-01-21  0:54     ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-01-21  1:48       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2025-01-21  2:32         ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-01-21 10:28           ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-21 12:46   ` kernel test robot

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