From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: update THP documentation to clarify sysfs "never" setting
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 09:30:18 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <35df32ae-dc95-48e1-bdb1-90f17bfd4d5c@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250721155530.75944-1-lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
On 2025/7/21 23:55, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> Rather confusingly, setting all Transparent Huge Page sysfs settings to
> "never" does not in fact result in THP being globally disabled.
>
> Rather, it results in khugepaged being disabled, but one can still obtain
> THP pages using madvise(..., MADV_COLLAPSE).
>
> This is something that has remained poorly documented for some time, and it
> is likely the received wisdom of most users of THP that never does, in
> fact, mean never.
>
> It is therefore important to highlight, very clearly, that this is not the
> ase.
>
> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> ---
> Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst | 11 +++++++++--
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> index dff8d5985f0f..182519197ef7 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> @@ -107,7 +107,7 @@ sysfs
> Global THP controls
> -------------------
>
> -Transparent Hugepage Support for anonymous memory can be entirely disabled
> +Transparent Hugepage Support for anonymous memory can be disabled
> (mostly for debugging purposes) or only enabled inside MADV_HUGEPAGE
> regions (to avoid the risk of consuming more memory resources) or enabled
> system wide. This can be achieved per-supported-THP-size with one of::
> @@ -119,6 +119,11 @@ system wide. This can be achieved per-supported-THP-size with one of::
> where <size> is the hugepage size being addressed, the available sizes
> for which vary by system.
>
> +.. note:: Setting "never" in all sysfs THP controls does **not** disable
> + Transparent Huge Pages globally. This is because ``madvise(...,
> + MADV_COLLAPSE)`` ignores these settings and collapses ranges to
> + PMD-sized huge pages unconditionally.
> +
> For example::
>
> echo always >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-2048kB/enabled
> @@ -187,7 +192,9 @@ madvise
> behaviour.
>
> never
> - should be self-explanatory.
> + should be self-explanatory. Note that ``madvise(...,
> + MADV_COLLAPSE)`` can still cause transparent huge pages to be
> + obtained even if this mode is specified everywhere.
I hope this part of the explanation is also copy-pasted into the
'Hugepages in tmpfs/shmem' section. Otherwise look good to me. Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-22 1:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-21 15:55 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-21 16:27 ` SeongJae Park
2025-07-22 1:13 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-22 1:30 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2025-07-22 2:23 ` Barry Song
2025-07-22 2:33 ` Baolin Wang
2025-07-22 3:37 ` Barry Song
2025-07-22 5:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 15:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 5:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 5:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 5:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 5:59 ` Baolin Wang
2025-07-22 8:19 ` Barry Song
2025-07-22 7:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-22 7:59 ` David Hildenbrand
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