From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
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Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
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Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Beyond 2MB: Why Terabyte-Scale Machines Need 1GB Transparent Huge Pages
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2026 17:00:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3485c8c8-9bfc-4725-885a-626e79d0aebb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <540c5c13-9cfb-44ea-b18f-8e4abff30a01@linux.dev>
>
> I see 1G THPs being opportunistically used ideally at the start of the application
> or by the allocator (jemalloc/tcmalloc) when there is plenty of free memory
> available and a greater chance of getting 1G THPs.
>
> Splitting strategy
> ==================
>
> When PUD THP must be break -- for COW after fork, partial munmap, mprotect on
> a subregion, or reclaim -- it splits directly from PUD to PTE level, converting
> 1 PUD entry into 262,144 PTE entries. The ideal solution would be to split to
> PMDs and only the necessary PMDs to PTEs. This is something that would hopefully
> be possible with Davids proposal [3].
There once was this proposal where we would, instead of splitting a THP,
migrate all memory away instead. That means, instead of splitting the 1
GiB THP, you would instead return it to the page allocator where
somebody else could use it.
However, we cannot easily do the same when remapping a 1 GiB THP to be
mapped by PMDs etc. I think there are examples where that just doesn't
work or is not desired.
But I considered that in general (avoid folio_split()) an interesting
approach. The remapping part is a bit different though.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-19 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-19 15:53 Usama Arif
2026-02-19 16:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-02-19 16:48 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-02-19 16:52 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-19 17:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-02-19 17:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 17:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 16:49 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-19 17:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-02-19 17:28 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-19 19:02 ` Rik van Riel
2026-02-20 10:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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