From: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Jenifer Hopper <jhopper@us.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
devel@driverdev.osuosl.org
Subject: RE: [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:15:30 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <33082dbe-496e-47a0-8394-11d59ac17f87@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51030ADA.8030403@redhat.com>
> From: Rik van Riel [mailto:riel@redhat.com]
> Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/
>
> On 01/07/2013 03:24 PM, Seth Jennings wrote:
> > zswap is a thin compression backend for frontswap. It receives
> > pages from frontswap and attempts to store them in a compressed
> > memory pool, resulting in an effective partial memory reclaim and
> > dramatically reduced swap device I/O.
> >
> > Additional, in most cases, pages can be retrieved from this
> > compressed store much more quickly than reading from tradition
> > swap devices resulting in faster performance for many workloads.
> >
> > This patch adds the zswap driver to mm/
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>
> I like the approach of flushing pages into actual disk based
> swap when compressed swap is full. I would like it if that
> was advertised more prominently in the changelog :)
>
> The code looks mostly good, complaints are at the nitpick level.
>
> One worry is that the pool can grow to whatever maximum was
> decided, and there is no way to shrink it when memory is
> required for something else.
>
> Would it be an idea to add a shrinker for the zcache pool,
> that can also shrink the zcache pool when required?
>
> Of course, that does lead to the question of how to balance
> the pressure from that shrinker, with the new memory entering
> zcache from the swap side. I have no clear answers here, just
> something to think about...
Hey Rik --
A shrinker needs to be able to free up whole pages.
I think Seth is working on this with zsmalloc but
it's quite a bit harder when pursuing high density
and page crossing which are the benefits, but also
part of the curse, of zsmalloc.
I have some ideas on how to do pressure balancing
and plan to propose a topic for LSF/MM to discuss
various questions involving in-kernel compression,
with this sub-topic included. Hopefully all the
developers contributing various in-kernel compression
solutions will be able to attend and participate
and we can start converging on upstreaming (and/or
promoting) some of them.
Dan
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-07 20:24 [PATCHv2 0/9] zswap: compressed swap caching Seth Jennings
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 1/9] staging: zsmalloc: add gfp flags to zs_create_pool Seth Jennings
2013-01-25 0:08 ` Nitin Gupta
2013-01-25 1:33 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-25 15:07 ` Seth Jennings
2013-01-25 15:56 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-28 2:59 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-30 16:11 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-31 5:21 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-25 21:26 ` Rik van Riel
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 2/9] staging: zsmalloc: remove unsed pool name Seth Jennings
2013-01-25 0:09 ` Nitin Gupta
2013-01-25 21:50 ` Rik van Riel
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 3/9] staging: zsmalloc: add page alloc/free callbacks Seth Jennings
2013-01-25 0:11 ` Nitin Gupta
2013-01-25 21:55 ` Rik van Riel
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 4/9] staging: zsmalloc: make CLASS_DELTA relative to PAGE_SIZE Seth Jennings
2013-01-25 0:17 ` Nitin Gupta
2013-01-25 16:38 ` Seth Jennings
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 5/9] debugfs: add get/set for atomic types Seth Jennings
2013-01-07 20:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-07 20:41 ` Seth Jennings
2013-01-25 16:45 ` Seth Jennings
2013-01-25 21:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 6/9] zsmalloc: promote to lib/ Seth Jennings
2013-01-28 4:01 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-28 4:32 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-28 17:41 ` Seth Jennings
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 7/9] mm: break up swap_writepage() for frontswap backends Seth Jennings
2013-01-28 4:22 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-28 17:26 ` Seth Jennings
2013-01-28 23:46 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/ Seth Jennings
2013-01-08 17:15 ` Dave Hansen
2013-01-08 17:54 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-25 22:44 ` Rik van Riel
2013-01-25 23:15 ` Dan Magenheimer [this message]
2013-01-28 15:27 ` Seth Jennings
2013-01-29 10:21 ` Lord Glauber Costa of Sealand
2013-02-07 16:13 ` Seth Jennings
2013-02-11 19:13 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-07 20:24 ` [PATCHv2 9/9] zswap: add documentation Seth Jennings
2013-01-22 18:10 ` [PATCHv2 0/9] zswap: compressed swap caching Seth Jennings
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2013-01-10 22:16 ` [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/ Dan Magenheimer
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