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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 akpm@linux-foundation.org, aarcange@redhat.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com,  dave.hansen@intel.com,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
	 mm-commits@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com, osalvador@suse.de,
	pagupta@redhat.com,  pbonzini@redhat.com, riel@surriel.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, wei.w.wang@intel.com,  willy@infradead.org,
	yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: + mm-introduce-reported-pages.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:29:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3161e0ec205852f8fcd1559f2dc177e42549708b.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191108184124.GV3016@techsingularity.net>

On Fri, 2019-11-08 at 18:41 +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2019 at 08:17:49AM -0800, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > > <SNIP>
> > > 
> > > From your perspective, I see it's a bit annoying because in the final
> > > result, the code should be identical. However, it'll be a lot clearer
> > > during review what is required, what level of complexity optimisations
> > > add and the performance of it. The changelog should include what metric
> > > you are using to evaluate the performance, the test case and the delta. It
> > > also will be easier from a debugging perspective as minimally a bisection
> > > could identify if a bug was due to the core mechanism itself or one of
> > > the optimisations.  Finally, it leaves open the possibility that someone
> > > can evaluate a completely different set of optimisations. Whatever the
> > > alternative approaches are, the actual interface to virtio ballon surely
> > > is the same (I don't actually know, I just can't see why the virtio ABI
> > > would be depend on how the pages are isolated, tracked and reported).
> > 
> > The virtio-balloon interface is the same at this point between my solution
> > and Nitesh's. So the only real disagreement in terms of the two solutions
> > is about keeping the bit in the page and the list manipulation versus the
> > external bitmap and the hunt and peck approach.
> > 
> 
> This is good news because it means that when/if Nitesh's approach is ready
> that the optimisations can be reverted and the new approach applied and
> give a like-like comparison if appropriate. The core feature and interface
> to userspace would remain the same and stay available regardless of how
> it's optimised. Maybe it's the weekend talking but I think structuring
> the series like that will allow forward progress to be made.

So quick question.

Any issue with me manipulating the lists like you do with the compaction
code? I ask because most of the overhead I was encountering was likely due
to walking the list so many times. If I do the split/splice style logic
that should reduce the total number of trips through the free lists since
I could push the reported pages to the tail of the list. For now I am
working on that as an alternate patch to the existing reported_boundary
approach just as an experiment.

Thanks.

- Alex



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-08 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20191106000547.juQRi83gi%akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2019-11-06 12:16 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-06 14:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-06 16:35     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-06 16:54       ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-06 17:48         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-06 22:11           ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-06 23:38             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-07  0:20             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-07 10:20               ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-07 16:07                 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-08  9:43                   ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-08 16:17                     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-08 18:41                       ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-08 20:29                         ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2019-11-09 14:57                           ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-10 18:03                             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-06 23:33           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-07  0:20             ` Dave Hansen
2019-11-07  0:52               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-07 17:12                 ` Dave Hansen
2019-11-07 17:46                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-07 18:08                     ` Dave Hansen
2019-11-07 18:12                     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-08  9:57                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-08 16:43                         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-07 18:46                   ` Qian Cai
2019-11-07 18:02             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-07 19:37               ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-11-07 22:46                 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-07 22:43               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-08  0:42                 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-08  7:06                   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-08 17:18                     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-12 13:04                       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-12 18:34                         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-12 21:05                           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-12 22:17                             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-12 22:19                             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-12 23:10                               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-13  0:31                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-13 18:51                           ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-11-06 16:49   ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-11-11 18:52   ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-11-11 22:00     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-12 15:19       ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-11-12 16:18         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-11-13 18:39           ` Nitesh Narayan Lal

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