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From: Steven Haigh <netwiz@crc.id.au>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 196729] New: System becomes unresponsive when swapping - Regression since 4.10.x
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 00:30:40 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3069262.adKtTK0b29@wopr.lan.crc.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170823133848.GA2652@dhcp22.suse.cz>


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On Wednesday, 23 August 2017 11:38:48 PM AEST Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 22-08-17 15:55:30, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > (switched to email.  Please respond via emailed reply-to-all, not via the
> > bugzilla web interface).
> 
> > On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 11:17:08 +0000 bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org 
wrote:
> [...]
> 
> > Sadly I haven't been able to capture this information
> > 
> > > fully yet due to said unresponsiveness.
> 
> Please try to collect /proc/vmstat in the bacground and provide the
> collected data. Something like
> 
> while true
> do
> 	cp /proc/vmstat > vmstat.$(date +%s)
> 	sleep 1s
> done
> 
> If the system turns out so busy that it won't be able to fork a process
> or write the output (which you will see by checking timestamps of files
> and looking for holes) then you can try the attached proggy
> ./read_vmstat output_file timeout output_size
> 
> Note you might need to increase the mlock rlimit to lock everything into
> memory.

Thanks Michal,

I have upgraded PCs since I initially put together this data - however I was 
able to get strange behaviour by pulling out an 8Gb RAM stick in my new system 
- leaving it with only 8Gb of RAM.

All these tests are performed with Fedora 26 and kernel 4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64

I have attached 3 files with output.

8Gb-noswap.tar.gz contains the output of /proc/vmstat running on 8Gb of RAM 
with no swap. Under this scenario, I was expecting the OOM reaper to just kill 
the game when memory allocated became too high for the amount of physical RAM. 
Interestingly, you'll notice a massive hang in the output before the game is 
terminated. I didn't see this before.

8Gb-swap-on-file.tar.gz contains the output of /proc/vmstat still with 8Gb of 
RAM - but creating a file with swap on the PCIe SSD /swapfile with size 8Gb 
via:
	# dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1G count=8
	# mkswap /swapfile
	# swapon /swapfile

Some times (all in UTC+10):
23:58:30 - Start loading the saved game
23:59:38 - Load ok, all running fine
00:00:15 - Load Chrome
00:01:00 - Quit the game

The game seemed to run ok with no real issue - and a lot was swapped to the 
swap file. I'm wondering if it was purely the speed of the PCIe SSD that 
caused this appearance - as the creation of the file with dd completed at 
~1.4GB/sec.

8Gb-swap-on-ssd.tar.gz contains adding a 32Gb SATA based SSD to the system and 
using the entire block device as swap via:
	# mkswap -f /dev/sda
	# swapon /dev/sda

There are many pauses and unresponsiveness issues while this was loading - 
however we eventually got there.

Some timings (all in UTC+10 again):
00:06:33 - Load the saved game
00:11:22 - Saved game loaded - somewhat responsive
00:12:00 - Load Chrome
00:13:07 - Quit the game + chrome

For the sake of information, the following is a speed test on the SSD in 
question:
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count=8192 conv=fsync
8192+0 records in
8192+0 records out
8589934592 bytes (8.6 GB, 8.0 GiB) copied, 44.923 s, 191 MB/s
# dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1M count=8192 conv=fsync
dd: fsync failed for '/dev/null': Invalid argument
8192+0 records in
8192+0 records out
8589934592 bytes (8.6 GB, 8.0 GiB) copied, 30.7414 s, 279 MB/s

Running the game on the exact same system with 16Gb of RAM and no swap works 
perfectly - even with multitasking - as we never end up filling physical RAM.

As there is some data missing though, should I still attempt to compile + run 
the program provided? I'm not quite clear on the mlock rlimit mention - I 
haven't really had to debug anything like this before.

-- 
Steven Haigh

📧 netwiz@crc.id.au       💻 http://www.crc.id.au
📞 +61 (3) 9001 6090    📱 0412 935 897

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-23 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-196729-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2017-08-22 22:55 ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-23 13:38   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-23 14:30     ` Steven Haigh [this message]
2017-08-24 12:41       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-24 14:19         ` Steven Haigh

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