From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-f197.google.com (mail-pg1-f197.google.com [209.85.215.197]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55006B0266 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-f197.google.com with SMTP id g11-v6so3724382pgs.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mga03.intel.com (mga03.intel.com. [134.134.136.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u11-v6si6646369plm.143.2018.07.19.07.02.43 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 03/19] mm/ksm: Do not merge pages with different KeyIDs References: <20180717112029.42378-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> <20180717112029.42378-4-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> <20180719073240.autom4g4cdm3jgd6@kshutemo-mobl1> From: Dave Hansen Message-ID: <3045c925-f5a8-ae68-8f77-4cddaf040f9f@intel.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:02:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180719073240.autom4g4cdm3jgd6@kshutemo-mobl1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Ingo Molnar , x86@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , "H. Peter Anvin" , Tom Lendacky , Kai Huang , Jacob Pan , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org On 07/19/2018 12:32 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:38:27AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote: >> On 07/17/2018 04:20 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: >>> Pages encrypted with different encryption keys are not allowed to be >>> merged by KSM. Otherwise it would cross security boundary. >> Let's say I'm using plain AES (not AES-XTS). I use the same key in two >> keyid slots. I map a page with the first keyid and another with the >> other keyid. >> >> Won't they have the same cipertext? Why shouldn't we KSM them? > We compare plain text, not ciphertext. And for good reason. What's the reason? Probably good to talk about it for those playing along at home. > Comparing ciphertext would only make KSM successful for AES-ECB that > doesn't dependent on physical address of the page. > > MKTME only supports AES-XTS (no plans to support AES-ECB). It effectively > disables KSM if we go with comparing ciphertext. But what's the security boundary that is violated? You are talking about some practical concerns (KSM scanning inefficiency) which is a far cry from being any kind of security issue.