From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Sven Geggus <lists@fuchsschwanzdomain.de>,
Karol Lewandowski <karol.k.lewandowski@gmail.com>,
Tobias Oetiker <tobi@oetiker.ch>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] vmscan: Have kswapd sleep for a short interval and double check it should be asleep
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:34:23 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f11576a0911140134u21eafa83t9642bb25ccd953de@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091113181740.GN29804@csn.ul.ie>
2009/11/14 Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 03:00:57AM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:43:09PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>> > > > After kswapd balances all zones in a pgdat, it goes to sleep. In the event
>> > > > of no IO congestion, kswapd can go to sleep very shortly after the high
>> > > > watermark was reached. If there are a constant stream of allocations from
>> > > > parallel processes, it can mean that kswapd went to sleep too quickly and
>> > > > the high watermark is not being maintained for sufficient length time.
>> > > >
>> > > > This patch makes kswapd go to sleep as a two-stage process. It first
>> > > > tries to sleep for HZ/10. If it is woken up by another process or the
>> > > > high watermark is no longer met, it's considered a premature sleep and
>> > > > kswapd continues work. Otherwise it goes fully to sleep.
>> > > >
>> > > > This adds more counters to distinguish between fast and slow breaches of
>> > > > watermarks. A "fast" premature sleep is one where the low watermark was
>> > > > hit in a very short time after kswapd going to sleep. A "slow" premature
>> > > > sleep indicates that the high watermark was breached after a very short
>> > > > interval.
>> > > >
>> > > > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
>> > >
>> > > Why do you submit this patch to mainline? this is debugging patch
>> > > no more and no less.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Do you mean the stats part? The stats are included until such time as the page
>> > allocator failure reports stop or are significantly reduced. In the event a
>> > report is received, the value of the counters help determine if kswapd was
>> > struggling or not. They should be removed once this mess is ironed out.
>> >
>> > If there is a preference, I can split out the stats part and send it to
>> > people with page allocator failure reports for retesting.
>>
>> I'm sorry my last mail didn't have enough explanation.
>> This stats help to solve this issue. I agreed. but after solving this issue,
>> I don't imagine administrator how to use this stats. if KSWAPD_PREMATURE_FAST or
>> KSWAPD_PREMATURE_SLOW significantly increased, what should admin do?
>
> One possible workaround would be to raise min_free_kbytes while a fix is
> being worked on.
Please correct me, if I said wrong thing.
if I was admin, I don't watch this stats because kswapd frequently
wakeup doesn't mean any trouble. instead I watch number of allocation
failure.
[see include/linux/vmstat.h]
umm...
Why don't we have nr-allocation-failure vmstat? I don't remember it.
GFP_NOWARN failure doesn't make syslog error logging. but frequently
GFP_NOWARN failure imply the system is under memory pressure or under
heavy fragmentation. It is good opportunity to change min_free_kbytes.
>> Or, Can LKML folk make any advise to admin?
>>
>
> Work with them to fix the bug :/
>
>> if kernel doesn't have any bug, kswapd wakeup rate is not so worth information imho.
>> following your additional code itself looks good to me. but...
>>
>>
>> > ==== CUT HERE ====
>> > vmscan: Have kswapd sleep for a short interval and double check it should be asleep fix 1
>> >
>> > This patch is a fix and a claritifacation to the patch "vmscan: Have
>> > kswapd sleep for a short interval and double check it should be asleep".
>> > The fix is for kswapd to only check zones in the node it is responsible
>> > for. The clarification is to rename two counters to better explain what is
>> > being counted.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
>> > ---
>> > include/linux/vmstat.h | 2 +-
>> > mm/vmscan.c | 20 +++++++++++++-------
>> > mm/vmstat.c | 4 ++--
>> > 3 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/include/linux/vmstat.h b/include/linux/vmstat.h
>> > index 7d66695..0591a48 100644
>> > --- a/include/linux/vmstat.h
>> > +++ b/include/linux/vmstat.h
>> > @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ enum vm_event_item { PGPGIN, PGPGOUT, PSWPIN, PSWPOUT,
>> > PGSCAN_ZONE_RECLAIM_FAILED,
>> > #endif
>> > PGINODESTEAL, SLABS_SCANNED, KSWAPD_STEAL, KSWAPD_INODESTEAL,
>> > - KSWAPD_PREMATURE_FAST, KSWAPD_PREMATURE_SLOW,
>> > + KSWAPD_LOW_WMARK_HIT_QUICKLY, KSWAPD_HIGH_WMARK_HIT_QUICKLY,
>> > KSWAPD_NO_CONGESTION_WAIT,
>> > PAGEOUTRUN, ALLOCSTALL, PGROTATED,
>> > #ifdef CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE
>> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> > index 70967e1..5557555 100644
>> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> > @@ -1905,19 +1905,25 @@ unsigned long try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(struct mem_cgroup *mem_cont,
>> > #endif
>> >
>> > /* is kswapd sleeping prematurely? */
>> > -static int sleeping_prematurely(int order, long remaining)
>> > +static int sleeping_prematurely(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order, long remaining)
>> > {
>> > - struct zone *zone;
>> > + int i;
>> >
>> > /* If a direct reclaimer woke kswapd within HZ/10, it's premature */
>> > if (remaining)
>> > return 1;
>> >
>> > /* If after HZ/10, a zone is below the high mark, it's premature */
>> > - for_each_populated_zone(zone)
>> > + for (i = 0; i < pgdat->nr_zones; i++) {
>> > + struct zone *zone = pgdat->node_zones + i;
>> > +
>> > + if (!populated_zone(zone))
>> > + continue;
>> > +
>> > if (!zone_watermark_ok(zone, order, high_wmark_pages(zone),
>> > 0, 0))
>> > return 1;
>> > + }
>> >
>> > return 0;
>> > }
>> > @@ -2221,7 +2227,7 @@ static int kswapd(void *p)
>> > long remaining = 0;
>> >
>> > /* Try to sleep for a short interval */
>> > - if (!sleeping_prematurely(order, remaining)) {
>> > + if (!sleeping_prematurely(pgdat, order, remaining)) {
>> > remaining = schedule_timeout(HZ/10);
>> > finish_wait(&pgdat->kswapd_wait, &wait);
>> > prepare_to_wait(&pgdat->kswapd_wait, &wait, TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
>> > @@ -2232,13 +2238,13 @@ static int kswapd(void *p)
>> > * premature sleep. If not, then go fully
>> > * to sleep until explicitly woken up
>> > */
>> > - if (!sleeping_prematurely(order, remaining))
>> > + if (!sleeping_prematurely(pgdat, order, remaining))
>> > schedule();
>> > else {
>> > if (remaining)
>> > - count_vm_event(KSWAPD_PREMATURE_FAST);
>> > + count_vm_event(KSWAPD_LOW_WMARK_HIT_QUICKLY);
>> > else
>> > - count_vm_event(KSWAPD_PREMATURE_SLOW);
>> > + count_vm_event(KSWAPD_HIGH_WMARK_HIT_QUICKLY);
>> > }
>> > }
>> >
>> > diff --git a/mm/vmstat.c b/mm/vmstat.c
>> > index bc09547..6cc8dc6 100644
>> > --- a/mm/vmstat.c
>> > +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
>> > @@ -683,8 +683,8 @@ static const char * const vmstat_text[] = {
>> > "slabs_scanned",
>> > "kswapd_steal",
>> > "kswapd_inodesteal",
>> > - "kswapd_slept_prematurely_fast",
>> > - "kswapd_slept_prematurely_slow",
>> > + "kswapd_low_wmark_hit_quickly",
>> > + "kswapd_high_wmark_hit_quickly",
>> > "kswapd_no_congestion_wait",
>> > "pageoutrun",
>> > "allocstall",
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Mel Gorman
> Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
> University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
> the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
> see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
> Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
>
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-14 9:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-12 19:30 [PATCH 0/5] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, candidate fix V3 Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 1/5] page allocator: Always wake kswapd when restarting an allocation attempt after direct reclaim failed Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 5:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 13:55 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 2/5] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 5:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 13:56 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 3/5] page allocator: Wait on both sync and async congestion after direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 11:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 11:55 ` Jens Axboe
2009-11-13 12:28 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 13:32 ` Jens Axboe
2009-11-13 13:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-13 15:22 ` Chris Mason
2009-11-13 14:16 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-20 14:56 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 4/5] vmscan: Have kswapd sleep for a short interval and double check it should be asleep Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 10:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 14:13 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 18:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 18:17 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-14 9:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-11-14 15:46 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-17 11:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 11:44 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-17 12:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:25 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-18 5:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:34 ` [PATCH] vmscan: Have kswapd sleep for a short interval and double check it should be asleep fix 1 Mel Gorman
2009-11-18 5:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmscan: Take order into consideration when deciding if kswapd is in trouble Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 9:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 13:54 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 14:48 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-13 18:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 18:15 ` [PATCH] vmscan: Stop kswapd waiting on congestion when the min watermark is not being met Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 18:26 ` Frans Pop
2009-11-13 18:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 20:03 ` [PATCH] vmscan: Stop kswapd waiting on congestion when the min watermark is not being met V2 Mel Gorman
2009-11-26 14:45 ` Tobias Oetiker
2009-11-29 7:42 ` still getting allocation failures (was Re: [PATCH] vmscan: Stop kswapd waiting on congestion when the min watermark is not being met V2) Tobi Oetiker
2009-12-02 11:32 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 21:30 ` Tobias Oetiker
2009-12-03 20:26 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-12-14 5:59 ` Tobias Oetiker
2009-12-14 8:49 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-13 18:36 ` [PATCH] vmscan: Stop kswapd waiting on congestion when the min watermark is not being met Rik van Riel
2009-11-13 14:38 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmscan: Take order into consideration when deciding if kswapd is in trouble Minchan Kim
2009-11-13 12:41 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-13 9:04 ` [PATCH 0/5] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, candidate fix V3 Frans Pop
2009-11-16 17:57 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 12:47 ` Tobias Oetiker
2009-11-13 13:37 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-15 12:07 ` Karol Lewandowski
2009-11-16 9:52 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-16 12:08 ` Karol Lewandowski
2009-11-16 14:32 ` Karol Lewandowski
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=2f11576a0911140134u21eafa83t9642bb25ccd953de@mail.gmail.com \
--to=kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=cl@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=elendil@planet.nl \
--cc=jkosina@suse.cz \
--cc=karol.k.lewandowski@gmail.com \
--cc=kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=lists@fuchsschwanzdomain.de \
--cc=mel@csn.ul.ie \
--cc=penberg@cs.helsinki.fi \
--cc=riel@redhat.com \
--cc=rjw@sisk.pl \
--cc=skraw@ithnet.com \
--cc=tobi@oetiker.ch \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox