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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	stable@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Sven Geggus <lists@fuchsschwanzdomain.de>,
	Karol Lewandowski <karol.k.lewandowski@gmail.com>,
	Tobias Oetiker <tobi@oetiker.ch>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
	kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:37:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f11576a0911010437l45b64f64webffa649763406b1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091101073527.GB32720@elf.ucw.cz>

2009/11/1 Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>:
>> > I believe it would be better to simply remove it.
>>
>> You are against trying to give the realtime tasks a best effort
>> advantage at memory allocation?
>
> Yes. Those memory reserves were for kernel, GPF_ATOMIC and stuff. Now
> realtime tasks are allowed to eat into them. That feels wrong.
>
> "realtime" tasks are not automatically "more important".
>
>> Realtime apps often *have* to allocate memory on the kernel side,
>> because they use network system calls, etc...
>
> So what? As soon as they do that, they lose any guarantees, anyway.

Then, your proposal makes regression to rt workload. any improve idea
is welcome.
but we don't hope to see any regression.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-01 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-27 13:40 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, partial fix V3 Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] page allocator: Always wake kswapd when restarting an allocation attempt after direct reclaim failed Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <1256650833-15516-3-git-send-email-mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 20:09     ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-27 21:12       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 18:40         ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 19:51           ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 20:11             ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 21:19               ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 22:29                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 22:55                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-01  7:35                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-01 12:37                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-11-01 14:44                       ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-01 19:32                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-02 16:38                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-10-31 23:59               ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-02 16:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-02 20:53                   ` David Rientjes
2009-11-03 17:10                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-04  1:46                       ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04  9:01                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-09 10:11                           ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 10:24       ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 18:18   ` Rik van Riel
2009-10-27 20:19   ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-28  3:54     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-28 10:29     ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 19:47       ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-02 16:05         ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-02 17:32           ` Frans Pop
2009-11-02 17:38             ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-02 20:36               ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-03 22:01               ` Frans Pop
2009-11-03 22:08                 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04  0:01                   ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  1:18                     ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04  2:05                       ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  2:08                         ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04 15:48                         ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04 20:57                           ` Frans Pop
2009-11-05 16:48                             ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit (data on latencies available) Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 11:36                               ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  2:08                       ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 13:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, partial fix V3 Karol Lewandowski

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