From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/36] compiler-context-analysis: Add infrastructure for Context Analysis with Clang
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 11:04:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f0c27eb-eca5-4a7f-8035-71c6b0c84e30@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANpmjNM=4baTiSWGOiSWLfQV2YqMt6qkdV__uj+QtD4zAY8Weg@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/19/25 10:59 AM, Marco Elver wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 at 19:39, 'Bart Van Assche' via kasan-dev
> <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> I'm concerned that the context_lock_struct() macro will make code harder
>> to read. Anyone who encounters the context_lock_struct() macro will have
>> to look up its definition to learn what it does. I propose to split this
>> macro into two macros:
>> * One macro that expands into "__ctx_lock_type(name)".
>> * A second macro that expands into the rest of the above macro.
>>
>> In other words, instead of having to write
>> context_lock_struct(struct_name, { ... }); developers will have to write
>>
>> struct context_lock_type struct_name {
>> ...;
>> };
>> context_struct_helper_functions(struct_name);
>
> This doesn't necessarily help with not having to look up its
> definition to learn what it does.
>
> If this is the common pattern, it will blindly be repeated, and this
> adds 1 more line and makes this a bit more verbose. Maybe the helper
> functions aren't always needed, but I also think that context lock
> types should remain relatively few. For all synchronization
> primitives that were enabled in this series, the helpers are required.
>
> The current usage is simply:
>
> context_lock_struct(name) {
> ... struct goes here ...
> }; // note no awkward ) brace
>
> I don't know which way the current kernel style is leaning towards,
> but if we take <linux/cleanup.h> as an example, a simple programming
> model / API is actually preferred.
Many kernel developers are used to look up the definition of a data
structure either by using ctags, etags or a similar tool or by using
grep and a pattern like "${struct_name} {\$". Breaking the tools kernel
developer use today to look up data structure definitions might cause
considerable frustration and hence shouldn't be done lightly.
Thanks,
Bart.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-19 19:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-19 15:39 [PATCH v5 00/36] Compiler-Based Context- and Locking-Analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 01/36] compiler_types: Move lock checking attributes to compiler-context-analysis.h Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 02/36] compiler-context-analysis: Add infrastructure for Context Analysis with Clang Marco Elver
2025-12-19 18:38 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 18:59 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-19 19:04 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2025-12-19 19:11 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-20 13:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 03/36] compiler-context-analysis: Add test stub Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 04/36] Documentation: Add documentation for Compiler-Based Context Analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 18:51 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 05/36] checkpatch: Warn about context_unsafe() without comment Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 06/36] cleanup: Basic compatibility with context analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 19:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 07/36] lockdep: Annotate lockdep assertions for " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 20:53 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 21:16 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-19 21:28 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 21:47 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 08/36] locking/rwlock, spinlock: Support Clang's " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 20:26 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 21:02 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-19 21:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 21:48 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-19 21:45 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 09/36] compiler-context-analysis: Change __cond_acquires to take return value Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v5 10/36] locking/mutex: Support Clang's context analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 11/36] locking/seqlock: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 12/36] bit_spinlock: Include missing <asm/processor.h> Marco Elver
2025-12-19 20:38 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 13/36] bit_spinlock: Support Clang's context analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 20:47 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 21:09 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 14/36] rcu: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 15/36] srcu: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 16/36] kref: Add context-analysis annotations Marco Elver
2025-12-19 20:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 17/36] locking/rwsem: Support Clang's context analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 20:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-20 12:52 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 18/36] locking/local_lock: Include missing headers Marco Elver
2025-12-19 20:56 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 19/36] locking/local_lock: Support Clang's context analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 20/36] locking/ww_mutex: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 21/36] debugfs: Make debugfs_cancellation a context lock struct Marco Elver
2025-12-19 21:01 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 22/36] um: Fix incorrect __acquires/__releases annotations Marco Elver
2025-12-19 21:05 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 23/36] compiler-context-analysis: Remove Sparse support Marco Elver
2025-12-19 21:38 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 24/36] compiler-context-analysis: Remove __cond_lock() function-like helper Marco Elver
2025-12-19 21:42 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-20 12:51 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 25/36] compiler-context-analysis: Introduce header suppressions Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 26/36] compiler: Let data_race() imply disabled context analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 27/36] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for Context Analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 28/36] kfence: Enable context analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 29/36] kcov: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 30/36] kcsan: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 31/36] stackdepot: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 32/36] rhashtable: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 33/36] printk: Move locking annotation to printk.c Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 34/36] security/tomoyo: Enable context analysis Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 35/36] crypto: " Marco Elver
2025-12-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 36/36] sched: Enable context analysis for core.c and fair.c Marco Elver
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