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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] memcg: nmi-safe kmem charging
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 17:56:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e2f0568-3687-4574-836d-c23d09614bce@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250509232859.657525-1-shakeel.butt@linux.dev>

On 5/10/25 01:28, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> BPF programs can trigger memcg charged kernel allocations in nmi
> context. However memcg charging infra for kernel memory is not equipped
> to handle nmi context. This series adds support for kernel memory
> charging for nmi context.
> 
> The initial prototype tried to make memcg charging infra for kernel
> memory re-entrant against irq and nmi. However upon realizing that
> this_cpu_* operations are not safe on all architectures (Tejun), this

I assume it was an off-list discussion?
Could we avoid this for the architectures where these are safe, which should
be the major ones I hope?

> series took a different approach targeting only nmi context. Since the
> number of stats that are updated in kernel memory charging path are 3,
> this series added special handling of those stats in nmi context rather
> than making all >100 memcg stats nmi safe.

Hmm so from patches 2 and 3 I see this relies on atomic64_add().
But AFAIU lib/atomic64.c has the generic fallback implementation for
architectures that don't know better, and that would be using the "void
generic_atomic64_##op" macro, which AFAICS is doing:

        local_irq_save(flags);                                          \
        arch_spin_lock(lock);                                           \
        v->counter c_op a;                                              \
        arch_spin_unlock(lock);                                         \
        local_irq_restore(flags);                                       \

so in case of a nmi hitting after the spin_lock this can still deadlock?

Hm or is there some assumption that we only use these paths when already
in_nmi() and then another nmi can't come in that context?

But even then, flush_nmi_stats() in patch 1 isn't done in_nmi() and uses
atomic64_xchg() which in generic_atomic64_xchg() implementation also has the
irq_save+spin_lock. So can't we deadlock there?

> 
> There will be a followup series which will make kernel memory charging
> reentrant for irq and will be able to do without disabling irqs.
> 
> We ran network intensive workload on this series and have not seen any
> significant performance differences with and without the series.
> 
> Shakeel Butt (4):
>   memcg: add infra for nmi safe memcg stats
>   memcg: add nmi-safe update for MEMCG_KMEM
>   memcg: nmi-safe slab stats updates
>   memcg: make objcg charging nmi safe
> 
>  include/linux/memcontrol.h |  6 +++
>  mm/memcontrol.c            | 87 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>  2 files changed, 88 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-12 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09 23:28 Shakeel Butt
2025-05-09 23:28 ` [PATCH 1/4] memcg: add infra for nmi safe memcg stats Shakeel Butt
2025-05-09 23:28 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: add nmi-safe update for MEMCG_KMEM Shakeel Butt
2025-05-09 23:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg: nmi-safe slab stats updates Shakeel Butt
2025-05-09 23:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: make objcg charging nmi safe Shakeel Butt
2025-05-13 22:25   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-14 16:46     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-10  1:26 ` [PATCH 0/4] memcg: nmi-safe kmem charging Andrew Morton
2025-05-10  3:11   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-10  7:00     ` Harry Yoo
2025-05-12 14:52     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-12 15:56 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-05-12 19:12   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-13  7:15     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-13 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-13 22:17         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-14  7:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-15  1:49           ` Shakeel Butt

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