From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: arnd@arndb.de, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz, jannh@google.com,
willy@infradead.org, liushixin2@huawei.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] /dev/zero: make private mapping full anonymous mapping
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:05:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2dda50aa-e4a1-4664-b8fa-56ba975db329@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250113223033.4054534-1-yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
+ Willy for the fs/weirdness elements of this.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 02:30:33PM -0800, Yang Shi wrote:
> When creating private mapping for /dev/zero, the driver makes it an
> anonymous mapping by calling set_vma_anonymous(). But it just sets
> vm_ops to NULL, vm_file is still valid and vm_pgoff is also file offset.
Hm yikes.
>
> This is a special case and the VMA doesn't look like either anonymous VMA
> or file VMA. It confused other kernel subsystem, for example, khugepaged [1].
>
> It seems pointless to keep such special case. Making private /dev/zero
> mapping a full anonymous mapping doesn't change the semantic of
> /dev/zero either.
My concern is that ostensibly there _is_ a file right? Are we certain that by
not setting this we are not breaking something somewhere else?
Are we not creating a sort of other type of 'non-such-beast' here?
I mean already setting it anon and setting vm_file non-NULL is really strange.
>
> The user visible effect is the mapping entry shown in /proc/<PID>/smaps
> and /proc/<PID>/maps.
>
> Before the change:
> ffffb7190000-ffffb7590000 rw-p 00001000 00:06 8 /dev/zero
>
> After the change:
> ffffb6130000-ffffb6530000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
>
Yeah this seems like it might break somebody to be honest, it's really
really really strange to map a file then for it not to be mapped.
But it's possibly EVEN WEIRDER to map a file and for it to seem mapped as a
file but for it to be marked anonymous.
God what a mess.
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250111034511.2223353-1-liushixin2@huawei.com/
I kind of hate that we have to mitigate like this for a case that should
never ever happen so I'm inclined towards your solution but a lot more
inclined towards us totally rethinking this.
Do we _have_ to make this anonymous?? Why can't we just reference the zero
page as if it were in the page cache (Willy - feel free to correct naive
misapprehension here).
>
> Signed-off-by: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
> ---
> drivers/char/mem.c | 4 ++++
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/char/mem.c b/drivers/char/mem.c
> index 169eed162a7f..dae113f7fc1b 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/mem.c
> +++ b/drivers/char/mem.c
> @@ -527,6 +527,10 @@ static int mmap_zero(struct file *file, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> if (vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED)
> return shmem_zero_setup(vma);
> vma_set_anonymous(vma);
> + fput(vma->vm_file);
> + vma->vm_file = NULL;
> + vma->vm_pgoff = vma->vm_start >> PAGE_SHIFT;
Hmm, this might have been mremap()'d _potentially_ though? And then now
this will be wrong? But then we'd have no way of tracking it correctly...
I've not checked the function but do we mark this as a special mapping of
some kind?
> +
> return 0;
> }
>
> --
> 2.47.0
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-14 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-13 22:30 Yang Shi
2025-01-14 12:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-01-14 16:53 ` Yang Shi
2025-01-14 18:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 18:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 18:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 18:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-14 18:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 18:32 ` Jann Horn
2025-01-14 18:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 19:03 ` Yang Shi
2025-01-14 19:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 21:24 ` Yang Shi
2025-01-15 12:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 21:29 ` Yang Shi
2025-01-15 22:05 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-01-14 13:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-14 14:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 15:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-14 17:01 ` Yang Shi
2025-01-14 17:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-14 17:38 ` Yang Shi
2025-01-14 17:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-14 18:05 ` Yang Shi
2025-01-14 17:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-14 17:20 ` Yang Shi
2025-01-14 17:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-28 3:14 ` kernel test robot
2025-01-31 18:38 ` Yang Shi
2025-02-06 8:02 ` Oliver Sang
2025-02-07 18:10 ` Yang Shi
2025-02-13 2:04 ` Oliver Sang
2025-02-14 22:53 ` Yang Shi
2025-02-18 6:30 ` Oliver Sang
2025-02-19 1:12 ` Yang Shi
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