From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, bp@alien8.de,
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chleroy@kernel.org, ioworker0@gmail.com, lizhe.67@bytedance.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 6/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear pages sequentially
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 23:10:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2dc62426-f04d-4a40-98a7-e59965abecb8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260107072009.1615991-7-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
On 1/7/26 08:20, Ankur Arora wrote:
> process_huge_pages(), used to clear hugepages, is optimized for cache
> locality. In particular it processes a hugepage in 4KB page units and
> in a difficult to predict order: clearing pages in the periphery in a
> backwards or forwards direction, then converging inwards to the
> faulting page (or page specified via base_addr.)
>
> This helps maximize temporal locality at time of access. However, while
> it keeps stores inside a 4KB page sequential, pages are ordered
> semi-randomly in a way that is not easy for the processor to predict.
>
> This limits the clearing bandwidth to what's available in a 4KB page.
>
> Consider the baseline bandwidth:
>
> $ perf bench mem mmap -p 2MB -f populate -s 64GB -l 3
> # Running 'mem/mmap' benchmark:
> # function 'populate' (Eagerly populated mmap())
> # Copying 64GB bytes ...
>
> 11.791097 GB/sec
>
> (Unless otherwise noted, all numbers are on AMD Genoa (EPYC 9J13);
> region-size=64GB, local node; 2.56 GHz, boost=0.)
>
> 11.79 GBps amounts to around 323ns/4KB. With memory access latency
> of ~100ns, that doesn't leave much time to help from, say, hardware
> prefetchers.
>
> (Note that since this is a purely write workload, it's reasonable
> to assume that the processor does not need to prefetch any cachelines.
>
> However, for a processor to skip the prefetch, it would need to look
> at the access pattern, and see that full cachelines were being written.
> This might be easily visible if clear_page() was using, say x86 string
> instructions; less so if it were using a store loop. In any case, the
> existence of these kind predictors or appropriately helpful threshold
> values is implementation specific.
>
> Additionally, even when the processor can skip the prefetch, coherence
> protocols will still need to establish exclusive ownership
> necessitating communication with remote caches.)
>
> With that, the change is quite straight-forward. Instead of clearing
> pages discontiguously, clear contiguously: switch to a loop around
> clear_user_highpage().
>
> Performance
> ==
>
> Testing a demand fault workload shows a decent improvement in bandwidth
> with pg-sz=2MB. Performance of pg-sz=1GB does not change because it
> has always used straight clearing.
>
> $ perf bench mem mmap -p $pg-sz -f demand -s 64GB -l 5
>
> discontiguous-pages contiguous-pages
> (baseline)
>
> (GBps +- %stdev) (GBps +- %stdev)
>
> pg-sz=2MB 11.76 +- 1.10% 23.58 +- 1.95% +100.51%
> pg-sz=1GB 24.85 +- 2.41% 25.40 +- 1.33% -
>
> Analysis (pg-sz=2MB)
> ==
>
> At L1 data cache level, nothing changes. The processor continues to
> access the same number of cachelines, allocating and missing them
> as it writes to them.
>
> discontiguous-pages 7,394,341,051 L1-dcache-loads # 445.172 M/sec ( +- 0.04% ) (35.73%)
> 3,292,247,227 L1-dcache-load-misses # 44.52% of all L1-dcache accesses ( +- 0.01% ) (35.73%)
>
> contiguous-pages 7,205,105,282 L1-dcache-loads # 861.895 M/sec ( +- 0.02% ) (35.75%)
> 3,241,584,535 L1-dcache-load-misses # 44.99% of all L1-dcache accesses ( +- 0.00% ) (35.74%)
>
> The L2 prefetcher, however, is now able to prefetch ~22% more cachelines
> (L2 prefetch miss rate also goes up significantly showing that we are
> backend limited):
>
> discontiguous-pages 2,835,860,245 l2_pf_hit_l2.all # 170.242 M/sec ( +- 0.12% ) (15.65%)
> contiguous-pages 3,472,055,269 l2_pf_hit_l2.all # 411.319 M/sec ( +- 0.62% ) (15.67%)
>
> That sill leaves a large gap between the ~22% improvement in prefetch
> and the ~100% improvement in bandwidth but better prefetching seems to
> streamline the traffic well enough that most of the data starts comes
> from the L2 leading to substantially fewer cache-misses at the LLC:
>
> discontiguous-pages 8,493,499,137 cache-references # 511.416 M/sec ( +- 0.15% ) (50.01%)
> 930,501,344 cache-misses # 10.96% of all cache refs ( +- 0.52% ) (50.01%)
>
> contiguous-pages 9,421,926,416 cache-references # 1.120 G/sec ( +- 0.09% ) (50.02%)
> 68,787,247 cache-misses # 0.73% of all cache refs ( +- 0.15% ) (50.03%)
>
> In addition, there are a few minor frontend optimizations: clear_pages()
> on x86 is now fully inlined, so we don't have a CALL/RET pair (which
> isn't free when using RETHUNK speculative execution mitigation as we
> do on my test system.) The loop in clear_contig_highpages() is also
> easier to predict (especially when handling faults) as compared to
> that in process_huge_pages().
>
> discontiguous-pages 980,014,411 branches # 59.005 M/sec (31.26%)
> discontiguous-pages 180,897,177 branch-misses # 18.46% of all branches (31.26%)
>
> contiguous-pages 515,630,550 branches # 62.654 M/sec (31.27%)
> contiguous-pages 78,039,496 branch-misses # 15.13% of all branches (31.28%)
>
> Note that although clearing contiguously is easier to optimize for the
> processor, it does not, sadly, mean that the processor will necessarily
> take advantage of it. For instance this change does not result in any
> improvement in my tests on Intel Icelakex (Oracle X9), or on ARM64
> Neoverse-N1 (Ampere Altra).
>
> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
> Reviewed-by: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>
> Tested-by: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>
> ---
Acked-by: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) <david@kernel.org>
--
Cheers
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-07 22:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-07 7:20 [PATCH v11 0/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear page ranges Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] treewide: provide a generic clear_user_page() variant Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] mm: introduce clear_pages() and clear_user_pages() Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] highmem: introduce clear_user_highpages() Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-08 6:10 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] x86/mm: Simplify clear_page_* Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] x86/clear_page: Introduce clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear pages sequentially Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:10 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear page ranges Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-08 0:44 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-08 0:43 ` [PATCH] mm: folio_zero_user: (fixup) cache neighbouring pages Ankur Arora
2026-01-08 0:53 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-08 6:04 ` [PATCH] mm: folio_zero_user: (fixup) cache page ranges Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] mm: folio_zero_user: cache neighbouring pages Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-07 18:09 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear page ranges Andrew Morton
2026-01-08 6:21 ` Ankur Arora
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