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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	maged.michael@gmail.com, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, lkmm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] compiler.h: Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address dependency
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 12:43:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2cdda043-1ad9-40cf-a157-0c16a0ffb046@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9539c551-5c91-42db-8ac1-cff1d6d7c293@huaweicloud.com>

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 01:26:53PM +0200, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 9/28/2024 um 4:49 PM schrieb Alan Stern:
> > On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 09:51:27AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > Compiler CSE and SSA GVN optimizations can cause the address dependency
> > > of addresses returned by rcu_dereference to be lost when comparing those
> > > pointers with either constants or previously loaded pointers.
> > > 
> > > Introduce ptr_eq() to compare two addresses while preserving the address
> > > dependencies for later use of the address. It should be used when
> > > comparing an address returned by rcu_dereference().
> > > 
> > > This is needed to prevent the compiler CSE and SSA GVN optimizations
> > > from replacing the registers holding @a or @b based on their
> > 
> > "Replacing" isn't the right word.  What the compiler does is use one
> > rather than the other.  Furthermore, the compiler can play these games
> > even with values that aren't in registers.
> > 
> > You should just say: "... from using @a (or @b) in places where the
> > source refers to @b (or @a) (based on the fact that after the
> > comparison, the two are known to be equal), which does not ..."
> 
> I should also point out that it is not enough to prevent the compiler from
> using @a instead of @b.
> 
> It must also be prevented from assigning @b=@a, which it is often allowed to
> do after finding @a==@b.

Wouldn't that be a bug?  Consider this litmus test:

int x = 0;
int y = 45;
int z = 0;

void P0(int *x, int *y, int *z) {
	int r1, r2;

	r1 = READ_ONCE(*x);
	r2 = READ_ONCE(*y);
	if (r1 == r2) {
		WRITE_ONCE(*z, 1);
		// L1: WRITE_ONCE(*y, r1);
	}
}

void P1(int *x, int *y) {
	int r3;

	WRITE_ONCE(*x, 45);
	WRITE_ONCE(*y, 56);
	r3 = READ_ONCE(*y);
}

exists (z=1 /\ 1:r3=45)		(* Not allowed *)

If the compiler were to make the extra assignment (basically, 
uncommenting the line marked L1) then the exists clause could be 
satisfied.  That would indicate there's a bug in the compiler.

Alan


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-30 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-28 13:51 [PATCH 0/2] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 13:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] compiler.h: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 14:49   ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:30     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 15:32     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 15:49       ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:55         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 21:15           ` Alan Stern
2024-09-30  9:42             ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 11:04               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-09-30 12:06                 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 13:54                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-09-28 22:26           ` Alan Huang
2024-09-28 23:55             ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-29  0:20               ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30  8:57             ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30  9:15               ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30  9:27                 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30  9:33                   ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 10:12                     ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30 11:26     ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 16:43       ` Alan Stern [this message]
2024-09-30 17:05         ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 18:53           ` Alan Stern
2024-10-01 17:11             ` David Laight
2024-10-01 22:57               ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-02  8:13                 ` David Laight
2024-10-02 14:14                   ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-02 15:24                     ` David Laight
2024-10-03  1:50                       ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-03 13:23                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 17:07                           ` David Laight
2024-10-03 18:00                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-07 11:54                           ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-10-07 13:18                             ` David Laight
2024-10-07 13:21                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-07 14:59                               ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-28 23:24   ` Gary Guo
2024-09-29 10:36     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 13:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation: RCU: Refer to ptr_eq() Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 14:58   ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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