From: Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@huawei.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
mgorman@techsingularity.net, Laura Abbott <lauraa@codeaurora.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@lge.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/7] Introduce ZONE_CMA
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 16:41:55 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2cd6a2c5-6e78-1d34-69b5-97a7de740b06@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170502130326.GJ14593@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On 02/05/17 16:03, Michal Hocko wrote:
> I can imagine that we could make ZONE_CMA configurable in a way that
> only very well defined use cases would be supported so that we can save
> page flags space. But this alone sounds like a maintainability nightmare
> to me. Especially when I consider ZONE_DMA situation. There is simply
> not an easy way to find out whether my HW really needs DMA zone or
> not. Most probably not but it still is configured and hidden behind
> config ZONE_DMA
> bool "DMA memory allocation support" if EXPERT
> default y
> help
> DMA memory allocation support allows devices with less than 32-bit
> addressing to allocate within the first 16MB of address space.
> Disable if no such devices will be used.
>
> If unsure, say Y.
>
> Are we really ready to add another thing like that? How are distribution
> kernels going to handle that?
In practice there are 2 quite opposite scenarios:
- distros that try to cater to (almost) everyone and are constrained in
what they can leave out
- ad-hoc builds (like Android, but also IoT) where the HW is *very* well
known upfront, because it's probably even impossible to make any change
that doesn't involved a rework station.
So maybe the answer is to not have only EXPERT, but rather DISTRO/CUSTOM
with the implications these can bring.
A generic build would assume to be a DISTRO type, but something else, of
more embedded persuasion, could do otherwise.
ZONE_DMA / ZONE_DMA32 actually seem to be perfect candidates for being
replaced by something else, when unused, as I proposed on Friday:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=149337033630993&w=2
It might still be that only some cases would be upstreamable, even after
these changes.
But at least some of those might be useful also for non-Android/ non-IoT
scenarios.
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igor
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-02 13:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-11 3:17 js1304
2017-04-11 3:17 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] mm/page_alloc: don't reserve ZONE_HIGHMEM for ZONE_MOVABLE request js1304
2017-04-17 7:38 ` Minchan Kim
2017-04-21 1:32 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-04-11 3:17 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] mm/cma: introduce new zone, ZONE_CMA js1304
2017-04-11 3:17 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] mm/cma: populate ZONE_CMA js1304
2017-04-11 3:17 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] mm/cma: remove ALLOC_CMA js1304
2017-04-11 3:17 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] mm/cma: remove MIGRATE_CMA js1304
2017-04-11 3:17 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] mm/cma: remove per zone CMA stat js1304
2017-04-11 3:17 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] ARM: CMA: avoid re-mapping CMA region if CONFIG_HIGHMEM js1304
2017-04-11 18:15 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Introduce ZONE_CMA Michal Hocko
2017-04-12 1:35 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-04-13 11:56 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-17 2:02 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-04-21 1:35 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-04-21 6:54 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-24 13:09 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-25 3:42 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-04-27 15:06 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-28 8:04 ` Generic approach to customizable zones - was: " Igor Stoppa
2017-04-28 8:36 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-28 9:04 ` Igor Stoppa
2017-05-02 4:01 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-02 13:32 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-11 2:12 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-11 9:13 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-12 2:00 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-12 6:38 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-15 3:57 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-16 8:47 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 7:44 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-02 8:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-02 13:03 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-02 13:41 ` Igor Stoppa [this message]
2017-05-04 12:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-04 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-11 8:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12 1:39 ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-04-24 4:08 ` Bob Liu
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