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From: Svetlana Parfenova <svetlana.parfenova@syntacore.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	<brauner@kernel.org>, <jack@suse.cz>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<david@redhat.com>, <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	<Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>, <vbabka@suse.cz>, <rppt@kernel.org>,
	<surenb@google.com>, <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC RESEND] binfmt_elf: preserve original ELF e_flags in core dumps
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 21:54:30 +0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c196c3f-4d49-494c-898e-8a1f6249ce24@syntacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202508071414.5A5AB6B2@keescook>

On 08/08/2025 03.14, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 07:13:50PM +0600, Svetlana Parfenova wrote:
>> On 07/08/2025 00.57, Kees Cook wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 10:18:14PM +0600, Svetlana Parfenova
>>> wrote:
>>>> Preserve the original ELF e_flags from the executable in the
>>>> core dump header instead of relying on compile-time defaults
>>>> (ELF_CORE_EFLAGS or value from the regset view). This ensures
>>>> that ABI-specific flags in the dump file match the actual
>>>> binary being executed.
>>>> 
>>>> Save the e_flags field during ELF binary loading (in
>>>> load_elf_binary()) into the mm_struct, and later retrieve it
>>>> during core dump generation (in fill_note_info()). Use this
>>>> saved value to populate the e_flags in the core dump ELF
>>>> header.
>>>> 
>>>> Add a new Kconfig option, CONFIG_CORE_DUMP_USE_PROCESS_EFLAGS,
>>>> to guard this behavior. Although motivated by a RISC-V use
>>>> case, the mechanism is generic and can be applied to all
>>>> architectures.
>>> 
>>> In the general case, is e_flags mismatched? i.e. why hide this
>>> behind a Kconfig? Put another way, if I enabled this Kconfig and
>>> dumped core from some regular x86_64 process, will e_flags be
>>> different?
>>> 
>> 
>> The Kconfig option is currently restricted to the RISC-V
>> architecture because it's not clear to me whether other
>> architectures need actual e_flags value from ELF header. If this
>> option is disabled, the core dump will always use a compile time
>> value for e_flags, regardless of which method is selected:
>> ELF_CORE_EFLAGS or CORE_DUMP_USE_REGSET. And this constant does 
>> not necessarily reflect the actual e_flags of the running process
>> (at least on RISC-V), which can vary depending on how the binary
>> was compiled. Thus, I made a third method to obtain e_flags that
>> reflects the real value. And it is gated behind a Kconfig option,
>> as not all users may need it.
> 
> Can you check if the ELF e_flags and the hard-coded e_flags actually 
> differ on other architectures? I'd rather avoid using the Kconfig so
> we can have a common execution path for all architectures.
> 

I checked various architectures, and most don’t use e_flags in core
dumps - just zero value. For x86 this is valid since it doesn’t define
values for e_flags. However, architectures like ARM do have meaningful
e_flags, yet still they are set to zero in core dumps. I guess the real
question isn't about core dump correctness, but whether tools like GDB
actually rely on e_flags to provide debug information. Seems like most
architectures either don’t use it or can operate without it. RISC-V
looks like black sheep here ... GDB relies on e_flags to determine the
ABI and interpret the core dump correctly.

What if I rework my patch the following way:
- remove Kconfig option;
- add function/macro that would override e_flags with value taken from
process, but it would only be applied if architecture specifies that.

Would that be a better approach?

-- 
Best regards,
Svetlana Parfenova


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-08 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-06 16:18 Svetlana Parfenova
2025-08-06 18:57 ` Kees Cook
2025-08-07 13:13   ` Svetlana Parfenova
2025-08-07 21:14     ` Kees Cook
2025-08-08 15:54       ` Svetlana Parfenova [this message]
2025-08-08 21:54         ` Kees Cook
2025-08-11  9:53 ` [RFC RESEND v2] binfmt_elf: preserve original ELF e_flags for " Svetlana Parfenova
2025-08-25 17:17   ` Kees Cook
2025-09-01 13:58     ` Svetlana Parfenova
2025-09-01 13:53 ` [RFC RESEND v3] " Svetlana Parfenova
2025-09-04  3:52   ` Kees Cook
2025-09-04  3:52   ` Kees Cook

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