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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Server: rspam03 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D974440009 X-Stat-Signature: mjwisj7ucdhi4u7c3e8ygdxu496qksu3 X-Rspam-User: X-HE-Tag: 1776426659-321850 X-HE-Meta: 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 2/EdZRkj xsk56Ct6j08p5bUXGKoDBpBzCOn4ZHdx3ajWXU7fcjmIEhjAvbq+j5X6GxTICawiLvt7yhTIQ5V7vFFA7EhP1GUPBtFkcf4/daJ+kXZwHtlW4sWSaXmowNUGcf2yC62PN93wkHQJ52I4Lx8+NfqkIjK5dopDh0NlnqOzDqrBPEmnB0GW/nhoD/vqiDoLv2ZtyDZAnYrMR6Z+7KHUw4rLLa+E8db7zYUqPpII2kJ6pSozsjUo+rqlWYVjMoW8C0zxaOWCuVAzAdo381KmolL5aMyVa/5T3nGQnexB/PxPByy3A1962XXD2Immpsw== Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 4/17/26 04:09, Zi Yan wrote: > On 14 Apr 2026, at 11:55, Zi Yan wrote: > >> On 14 Apr 2026, at 6:38, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: >> >>> >>> maybe simplify to "folios, since that would require taking the folio lock first." >> >> Sure. >> >>> >>> >>> >>> IIRC, after successful try_to_unmap() the PTE dirty bit would be synced to the >>> folio. That's what you care about, not about any stale TLB entries. >> >> Right. I missed the PTE dirty bit to folio dirtiness part. >> >>> >>> The important part is that the >>> >>> So can't we simply test for dirty folios after the refcount check (where >>> we made sure the folio is no longer mapped)? >>> >> >> I think so. > > After more thoughts, this still works but the reasoning is more complicated. > > After try_to_unmap(), PTE dirty bit is transferred to folio dirty flag if exists. > The code bails out if the folio is dirty. A clean folio means the removed > PTEs were clean, thus TLB entries caching these PTEs have dirty bit not set. Right. > Any write to the folio after try_to_unmap() causes a page table walk and > a page fault due to invalid PTEs, and they cannot proceed since collapse_file() > is holding the folio lock. Right. > As a result, we can skip marking folio dirty > after the collapse. Exactly. > > If we allow a dirty folio after try_to_unmap(), we need to mark the folio dirty > after the collapse like shmem. And a potential optimization is that we only > mark the after-collapse folio dirty if any old folio is dirty after try_to_unmap(). That was my thinking as well, but it would be something we'd try to handle separately. Folios that are under writeback cannot be collapsed IIUC. -- Cheers, David