From: "Ray Lee" <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lee.schermerhorn@hp.com,
kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
eric.whitney@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 13/25] Noreclaim LRU Infrastructure
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:43:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c0942db0806081443o346619caj261edf7f13d05b75@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080608173244.0ac4ad9b@bree.surriel.com>
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:57:04 -0700
> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>> > > > From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
>> >
>> > > > The noreclaim infrastructure is enabled by a new mm Kconfig option
>> > > > [CONFIG_]NORECLAIM_LRU.
>> > >
>> > > Having a config option for this really sucks, and needs extra-special
>> > > justification, rather than none.
>> >
>> > I believe the justification is that it uses a page flag.
>> >
>> > PG_noreclaim would be the 20th page flag used, meaning there are
>> > 4 more free if 8 bits are used for zone and node info, which would
>> > give 6 bits for NODE_SHIFT or 64 NUMA nodes - probably overkill
>> > for 32 bit x86.
>> >
>> > If you want I'll get rid of CONFIG_NORECLAIM_LRU and make everything
>> > just compile in always.
>>
>> Seems unlikely to be useful? The only way in which this would be an
>> advantage if if we hae some other feature which also needs a page flag
>> but which will never be concurrently enabled with this one.
>>
>> > Please let me know what your preference is.
>>
>> Don't use another page flag?
>
> I don't see how that would work. We need a way to identify
> the status of the page.
>
>> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_NORECLAIM_LRU
>> > > > + PG_noreclaim, /* Page is "non-reclaimable" */
>> > > > +#endif
>> > >
>> > > I fear that we're messing up the terminology here.
>> > >
>> > > Go into your 2.6.25 tree and do `grep -i reclaimable */*.c'. The term
>> > > already means a few different things, but in the vmscan context,
>> > > "reclaimable" means that the page is unreferenced, clean and can be
>> > > stolen. "reclaimable" also means a lot of other things, and we just
>> > > made that worse.
>> > >
>> > > Can we think of a new term which uniquely describes this new concept
>> > > and use that, rather than flogging the old horse?
>> >
>> > Want to reuse the BSD term "pinned" instead?
>>
>> mm, "pinned" in Linuxland means "someone took a ref on it to prevent it
>> from being reclaimed".
>>
>> As a starting point: what, in your english-language-paragraph-length
>> words, does this flag mean?
>
> "Cannot be reclaimed because someone has it locked in memory
> through mlock, or the page belongs to something that cannot
> be evicted like ramfs."
"Unevictable"
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-06-06 20:28 ` Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 20:34 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 20:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 21:32 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 21:43 ` Ray Lee [this message]
2008-06-08 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 23:34 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-09 0:56 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 6:10 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-09 13:44 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 2:58 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 5:44 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-10 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-10 19:37 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-10 21:48 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-10 22:05 ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-11 5:09 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-11 6:16 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-11 6:29 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-11 12:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 14:09 ` Removing node flags from page->flags was Re: [PATCH -mm 13/25] Noreclaim LRU Infrastructure II Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 19:03 ` [PATCH -mm 13/25] Noreclaim LRU Infrastructure Andy Whitcroft
2008-06-11 20:52 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 23:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-08 22:03 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 21:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-10 20:09 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 15/25] Ramfs and Ram Disk pages are non-reclaimable Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 4:32 ` Greg KH
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 17/25] Mlocked Pages " Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 5:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-10 3:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-10 12:50 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 21:14 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 21:43 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-10 21:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-11 16:01 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-10 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-11 15:29 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-11 1:00 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 19/25] Handle mlocked pages during map, remap, unmap Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 21/25] Cull non-reclaimable pages in fault path Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel, Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-06 20:29 ` [PATCH -mm 23/25] Noreclaim LRU scan sysctl Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel, Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-06 20:29 ` [PATCH -mm 25/25] Noreclaim LRU and Mlocked Pages Documentation Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
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