From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
"Felix.Kuehling@amd.com" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm/hmm: pass mmu_notifier_range to sync_cpu_device_pagetables
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 17:16:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2be4987a-eede-c864-c69c-382698641d25@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190608114133.GA14873@mellanox.com>
On 6/8/19 4:41 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 02:10:08AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 05:14:52PM -0700, Ralph Campbell wrote:
>>> HMM defines its own struct hmm_update which is passed to the
>>> sync_cpu_device_pagetables() callback function. This is
>>> sufficient when the only action is to invalidate. However,
>>> a device may want to know the reason for the invalidation and
>>> be able to see the new permissions on a range, update device access
>>> rights or range statistics. Since sync_cpu_device_pagetables()
>>> can be called from try_to_unmap(), the mmap_sem may not be held
>>> and find_vma() is not safe to be called.
>>> Pass the struct mmu_notifier_range to sync_cpu_device_pagetables()
>>> to allow the full invalidation information to be used.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
>>>
>>> I'm sending this out now since we are updating many of the HMM APIs
>>> and I think it will be useful.
>>
>> This is the right thing to do. But the really right thing is to just
>> kill the hmm_mirror API entirely and move to mmu_notifiers. At least
>> for noveau this already is way simpler, although right now it defeats
>> Jasons patch to avoid allocating the struct hmm in the fault path.
>> But as said before that can be avoided by just killing struct hmm,
>> which for many reasons is the right thing to do anyway.
>>
>> I've got a series here, which is a bit broken (epecially the last
>> patch can't work as-is), but should explain where I'm trying to head:
>>
>> http://git.infradead.org/users/hch/misc.git/shortlog/refs/heads/hmm-mirror-simplification
>
> At least the current hmm approach does rely on the collision retry
> locking scheme in struct hmm/struct hmm_range for the pagefault side
> to work right.
>
> So, before we can apply patch one in this series we need to fix
> hmm_vma_fault() and all its varients. Otherwise the driver will be
> broken.
>
> I'm hoping to first define what this locking should be (see other
> emails to Ralph) then, ideally, see if we can extend mmu notifiers to
> get it directly withouth hmm stuff.
>
> Then we apply your patch one and the hmm ops wrapper dies.
>
This all makes sense, and thanks for all this work to simplify and clarify
HMM. It's going to make it a lot easier to work with, when the dust settles.
thanks,
--
John Hubbard
NVIDIA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-10 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-08 0:14 Ralph Campbell
2019-06-08 9:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-08 11:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-10 0:16 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2019-06-08 11:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-09 19:46 ` Ira Weiny
2019-07-02 19:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-02 20:11 ` Ralph Campbell
2019-07-02 22:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-02 22:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-03 0:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-03 2:27 ` Kuehling, Felix
2019-07-03 15:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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