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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:22:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2bc722b9-3eff-6d99-4ee7-1f4cab8b6c21@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190729142756.GF31425@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 7/29/19 10:27 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:52:35AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 01:10:47PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>> It was found that a dying mm_struct where the owning task has exited
>>> can stay on as active_mm of kernel threads as long as no other user
>>> tasks run on those CPUs that use it as active_mm. This prolongs the
>>> life time of dying mm holding up memory and other resources like swap
>>> space that cannot be freed.
>> Sure, but this has been so 'forever', why is it a problem now?
>>
>>> Fix that by forcing the kernel threads to use init_mm as the active_mm
>>> if the previous active_mm is dying.
>>>
>>> The determination of a dying mm is based on the absence of an owning
>>> task. The selection of the owning task only happens with the CONFIG_MEMCG
>>> option. Without that, there is no simple way to determine the life span
>>> of a given mm. So it falls back to the old behavior.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>  include/linux/mm_types.h | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>>  kernel/sched/core.c      | 13 +++++++++++--
>>>  mm/init-mm.c             |  4 ++++
>>>  3 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm_types.h b/include/linux/mm_types.h
>>> index 3a37a89eb7a7..32712e78763c 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/mm_types.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/mm_types.h
>>> @@ -623,6 +623,21 @@ static inline bool mm_tlb_flush_nested(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>>  	return atomic_read(&mm->tlb_flush_pending) > 1;
>>>  }
>>>  
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
>>> +/*
>>> + * A mm is considered dying if there is no owning task.
>>> + */
>>> +static inline bool mm_dying(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>> +{
>>> +	return !mm->owner;
>>> +}
>>> +#else
>>> +static inline bool mm_dying(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>> +{
>>> +	return false;
>>> +}
>>> +#endif
>>> +
>>>  struct vm_fault;
>> Yuck. So people without memcg will still suffer the terrible 'whatever
>> it is this patch fixes'.
> Also; why then not key off that owner tracking to free the resources
> (and leave the struct mm around) and avoid touching this scheduling
> hot-path ?

The resources are pinned by the reference count. Making a special case
will certainly mess up the existing code.

It is actually a problem for systems that are mostly idle. Only the
kernel->kernel case needs to be updated. If the CPUs isn't busy running
user tasks, a little bit more overhead shouldn't really hurt IMHO.

Cheers,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-27 17:10 Waiman Long
2019-07-29  8:18 ` Qais Yousef
2019-07-29 21:06   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 21:33     ` Qais Yousef
2019-07-29  8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 14:24   ` [PATCH] sched: Clean up active_mm reference counting Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:01     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-07-29 15:16     ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:29     ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 14:27   ` [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:22     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2019-07-29 15:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 14:51   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:28       ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 15:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 16:10           ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 16:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:37       ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 16:12         ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 16:22       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-29  9:12 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29 15:27   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 18:58     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29 20:41       ` Waiman Long

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