From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm: folio_may_be_cached() unless folio_test_large()
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 13:04:39 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ba8984b-8818-2a7f-7544-4c5fce3e0878@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f76748b-8f99-4e63-ba39-adadc2f58838@redhat.com>
On Mon, 8 Sep 2025, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 08.09.25 13:19, Hugh Dickins wrote:
...
> >
> > (Settimg aside that I've never perceived those pagevecs/batches as a
> > "cache"; but lru_cache_disable() gave us that terminology, and we've
> > gone with the flow ever since. lru_add_drain() would be better named
> > lru_cache_drain() now, I've always got hung up on "adding a drain".)
>
> Yeah, the terminology is not that intuitive :)
>
> Not sure if using "batched" instead of "cached" might be clearer long-term?
>
> >
> > "may be" rather than "maybe" was intentional: perhaps too subtle,
> > but to a native speaker it neatly expresses both the "we can do this"
> > and "might this have been done" cases.
>
> I would wish we could find something that also non-native speakers can
> immediately understand ;)
>
> "may_get_lru_cached" / "may_get_lru_batched"?
>
> /me could not even phrase it in German properly
>
> >
> > kernel-doc? I don't think so, this is very much an mm-internal
> > matter, and I don't care for the way kernel-doc forces us towards
> > boilerplate ("@folio: The folio.") rather than helpful comment.
>
> So a comment that this is an internal helper might be nice. Or we just move it
> straight to mm/internal.h ?
mm/internal.h, where we hide things (GFP_RECLAIM_MASK etc!) that belong
elsewhere? No thanks.
David, I think you're over-thinking this: I'm coming to regret not just
going with your excellent folio_test_large() optimization, and let
someone else mess around with the naming.
I'll post later with my current naming, but if it's the
Suggested-by that's making you uncomfortable, we can delete it.
Hugh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-08 20:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-31 8:57 [PATCH 0/7] mm: better GUP pin lru_add_drain_all() Hugh Dickins
2025-08-31 9:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm: fix folio_expected_ref_count() when PG_private_2 Hugh Dickins
2025-08-31 23:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-01 1:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01 7:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 8:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 10:27 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 15:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-08 19:47 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-08-31 9:05 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm/gup: check ref_count instead of lru before migration Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 10:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 14:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 19:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 20:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-31 9:08 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm/gup: local lru_add_drain() to avoid lru_add_drain_all() Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01 8:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 10:53 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-08-31 9:11 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: Revert "mm/gup: clear the LRU flag of a page before adding to LRU batch" Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01 8:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-31 9:13 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm: Revert "mm: vmscan.c: fix OOM on swap stress test" Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01 8:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-31 9:16 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm: folio_may_be_cached() unless folio_test_large() Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01 8:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 11:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-08 14:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 20:04 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2025-09-08 20:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-31 9:18 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm: lru_add_drain_all() do local lru_add_drain() first Hugh Dickins
2025-09-01 8:14 ` David Hildenbrand
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