From: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>,
Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Tiezhu Yang <yangtiezhu@loongson.cn>,
Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
Yinglu Yang <yangyinglu@loongson.cn>,
Alexey Malahov <Alexey.Malahov@baikalelectronics.ru>,
Aleksandar Rikalo <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>,
Aleksandar Rikalo <arikalo@gmail.com>,
Dragan Mladjenovic <dragan.mladjenovic@syrmia.com>,
Chao-ying Fu <cfu@wavecomp.com>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
"linux-mips@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] mips: dmi: Fix early remap on MIPS32
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 22:26:20 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b6pgqupd7uv5la5h52zczdfkpbtnn3xbz2oqjhqpyiqv6ew35@t2vb7vteespn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00c225bf-ed99-4721-9d6a-1e58cdffc79f@app.fastmail.com>
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 10:59:10PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023, at 14:52, Serge Semin wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 01:41:51PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023, at 17:23, Serge Semin wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 10:03:49PM +0000, Jiaxun Yang wrote:
> >> but ioremap_cache() is generally underspecified because the
> >> resulting pointer is neither safe to dereference nor to pass into
> >> readl()/writel()/memcpy_fromio() on all architectures.
> >
> > I don't know about ARM64 (which for instance has it utilized to access
> > the DMI region), but at least in case of MIPS32 (a fortiori MIPS64
> > seeing the ioremap_cache() method actually returns a pointer to the
> > uncached region) I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be safe in both
> > cases described by you. All IO and memory regions are accessed by the
> > generic load and store instructions. The only difference is that the
> > MMIO-space accessors normally implies additional barriers, which just
> > slow down the execution, but shouldn't cause any other problem. Could
> > you clarify why do you think otherwise?
>
> On arch/powerpc, CONFIG_PPC_INDIRECT_MMIO makes all ioremap()
> type functions return a token that can be passed into the readl/writel
> family but that is not a pointer you can dereference.
>
> On s390, the mechanism is different, but similarly __iomem
> tokens are not pointers at all.
Ah, you meant that it was not generically safe. Then your were correct
for sure. I was talking about the MIPS arch, which doesn't
differentiate normal and IO memory pointers: all of them are accessed
by the same instructions. So ioremap_prot() returns just a normal
pointer there, which can be safely de-referenced.
>
> >> There was an effort to convert the remaining ioremap_cache() calls
> >> into memremap() a few years ago, not sure if that's still being worked
> >> on but it would be the right thing to do.
> >
> > I see. Thanks for the pointing out to that. I guess it could be done
> > for MIPS too (at least on our MIPS32 platform DMI is just a memory
> > region pre-initialized by the bootloader), but the conversion would
> > require much efforts. Alas currently I can't afford to get it
> > implemented in the framework of this patchset. (I saved your note in
> > my MIPS TODO list though. Let's hope eventually I'll be able to get
> > back to this topic.)
>
> I just noticed that the only architectures that actually provide
> ioremap_cache() are x86, arm, arm64, mips, loongarch, powerpc, sh
> and xtensa. The ones that have ACPI support still definitely
> need it, most of the other ones can probably be fixed without
> too much trouble.
Ok. Thanks. I'll have a look at that on my free time.
-Serge(y)
>
> Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-30 19:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-22 18:23 [PATCH 0/7] MIPS: mm: Fix some memory-related issues Serge Semin
2023-11-22 18:23 ` [PATCH 1/7] mips: dmi: Fix early remap on MIPS32 Serge Semin
2023-11-22 19:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-11-23 9:32 ` Serge Semin
2023-11-23 12:13 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-11-23 12:29 ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2023-11-23 15:07 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-11-23 16:07 ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2023-11-23 17:33 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-11-24 18:52 ` Serge Semin
2023-11-24 22:03 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-11-27 16:23 ` Serge Semin
2023-11-27 21:08 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-11-28 11:34 ` Serge Semin
2023-11-28 15:46 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-11-30 19:16 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-01 0:13 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-12-01 14:54 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-01 15:10 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-12-01 18:26 ` Serge Semin
2023-11-28 12:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-11-28 13:52 ` Serge Semin
2023-11-28 21:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-11-30 19:26 ` Serge Semin [this message]
2023-11-24 22:34 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-11-22 18:24 ` [PATCH 7/7] mips: Set dump-stack arch description Serge Semin
2023-11-22 18:29 ` [PATCH 0/7] MIPS: mm: Fix some memory-related issues Andrew Morton
2023-11-23 10:12 ` Serge Semin
[not found] ` <20231122182419.30633-7-fancer.lancer@gmail.com>
2023-11-23 10:06 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm/mm_init.c: Append '\n' to the unavailable ranges log-message Mike Rapoport
[not found] ` <20231122182419.30633-6-fancer.lancer@gmail.com>
2023-11-23 10:18 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm/mm_init.c: Extend init unavailable range doc info Mike Rapoport
[not found] ` <ehlzzv37o4exdn4smmu653wzjdotzdv3dhr3bduvemxssp37ro@sgegnyprquk4>
2023-11-24 8:19 ` Mike Rapoport
[not found] ` <h3g6ynqem6h6hefmdawzaspvzf4u5fwfh7rken3ogy5ucr5z5t@d5gagi2ql4ee>
2023-11-28 7:13 ` Mike Rapoport
[not found] ` <z6r4jvuo63deg5ezzrxiewuzgdfwvcluzp45r4gmu7vwx6fmlm@d5r6phck2ovh>
2023-11-29 6:14 ` Mike Rapoport
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